What if we killed off the 1/4 / 6.35mm jack?

Einzeln said:
(Nutricious? I am Dutch had some English lessons though, haha)
I see you could leave the jacks out completely if you make it "Eurorack/Schmorg". And make some patchjacks for the factorypedals.
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English is...eh...stupid. Too many strange spellings, too easy to speak at great length whilst conveying nothing. Then again it is unfortunately the only one I know. Sigh.

I tip my hat to the attempt! It's the sort of thing that, when feasted upon, is enormously nutritious to my soul.

Like I said: English is stupid.
 
Big Monk said:
Why are we trying to get rid of 1/4” again?
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Because I already double-checked the values and reflowed.
It was a bit of a thought experiment, of which I stated it was a bad idea. I just wanted to stir up some creative conversation. Unfortunately, it seems most just read the first half of the OP and decided to reinforce my stance of it being a bad idea.

Note to self, when stating a known bad position, state that first.

There have been some good (bad) proposals though.
 
Team naysay, away,!

Whelp. Here I leave behind a wasteland of skewered stabs at creativity and hope for a new, better way.

A job well done. A job very well done.
 
jwin615 said:
Because I already double-checked the values and reflowed.
It was a bit of a thought experiment, of which I stated it was a bad idea. I just wanted to stir up some creative conversation. Unfortunately, it seems most just read the first half of the OP and decided to reinforce my stance of it being a bad idea.

Note to self, when stating a known bad position, state that first.

There have been some good (bad) proposals though.
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When you expect people to actually read what you are asking about, you're already working on faulty assumptions.
 
Fama said:
When you expect people to actually read what you are asking about, you're already working on faulty assumptions.
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Trooth.

That's why I write essays. I don't actually want anybody reading what I put down.

Better to speak in long rambling nonsense blah blah blahs, vague asinine platitudes, and dive into bewildering logical rabbit holes. Better to do that and to ignored than to speak plainly and actually add anything to the conversation.

That's what I've always said, at least.

Opinions are like assholes, in that I have more than most people.
 
What I don’t get is why digital effects don’t have a digital output and standard to send the effect to other digital pedals without going digital-analogue-cable-analogue-digital each time
 
LukeFRC said:
What I don’t get is why digital effects don’t have a digital output and standard to send the effect to other digital pedals without going digital-analogue-cable-analogue-digital each time
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Early computer days had this problem. ANSI was created to create standards for digital formats. What would be billion$ today, but were million$ then. The government and the military intelligence were also involved due to the necessity for national security. Probably never gonna happen again, especially for entertainment industry, but who knows.....
 
Mmm, like having part of the pedalboard made up of optical cables?

Not a terrible idea, honestly. Though it would open up a whole world of complexity within the rig. I imagine that one would need to have a master clock for this to work.

Though, functionally speaking, this is basically what the neural, Fractal, and line 6 modeler boards do.
 
I've used RCA connectors for simple switchers in more permanent settings. Like being able to switch the same pedal board between all my amps' FX loops or switching the output from my audio interface between active monitors and AVR. I like it, saves a loooot of space inside the enclosure. If you don't cheap out on jacks and plugs the mechanical connection is almost as good as with 1/4" connections imo.
 
Funny seeing this thread resurrected.
LukeFRC said:
What I don’t get is why digital effects don’t have a digital output and standard to send the effect to other digital pedals without going digital-analogue-cable-analogue-digital each time
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The 2 issues there would be sample rate/frequency and as stickman said, clock. Though spdif and adapt formats can carry clock if implemented. It would be nice I guess and save on some latency when stacking digital pedals would probably be the biggest pro. Cons would be added expense, for sure. It would be cool to have dual light pipe on a range of pedals that go to a hub. Then, the hub holds presets and can switch the order of the pedals via preset and maybe even do parallel processing.
I can only imagine what a 10 pack of "Monster pedalboard ADAT patch cables" would cost.
Another quandary is often digital pedals, think Strymon or chase bliss, can have some analog support circuitry in the audio path so merely grabbing the digital IO may not capture the sound of the whole pedal. Didn't some of the line 6 boards have spdif IO? I think at least the HDX500 did.
lowpitch said:
I've used RCA connectors for simple switchers in more permanent settings. Like being able to switch the same pedal board between all my amps' FX loops or switching the output from my audio interface between active monitors and AVR. I like it, saves a loooot of space inside the enclosure. If you don't cheap out on jacks and plugs the mechanical connection is almost as good as with 1/4" connections imo.
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Using quality shielded cable, seems like a good idea to me. It was good enough for fender!
 
lowpitch said:
True. I make my own cables anyway so no issues getting quality RCA -> TS 1/4" cables either when necessary.
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As a happy owner of a Cioks power supply I think RCA sockets would be a terrible idea and asking for me to blow something up!
 
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