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I haven’t done any 8 pin, but on the fv1 I just ran one bead of paste up each side, no extra flux. Everything in between the pads jumped right to the pads as soon it got up to temp.
Maybe I missed the fv1 bit. Was just curious if anyone used stencils. Only done a handful of smd parts but the solder wants to go where it's supposed to go in my experience. The key seems to be using the right amount of paste...
Nowz if there's a stencil to attach between hand and brain, I'm all in.
 
Maybe I missed the fv1 bit. Was just curious if anyone used stencils. Only done a handful of smd parts but the solder wants to go where it's supposed to go in my experience. The key seems to be using the right amount of paste...
Nowz if there's a stencil to attach between hand and brain, I'm all in.
I've never used a stencil -- I've only seen videos of stencils being used. In every instance, the builder used the stencil, placed the components and then used a hot plate to do the weld. I've never seen anybody use a stencil with hot air, but I suppose you could. @JTEX showed me a video of him doing SMD with an iron, but he clearly has done it a few times, and as easy as he makes it look, I doubt that it's as easy as he makes it look. Maybe one day I'll have the confidence to try that, but not yet.

I've also seen videos of people using the drag method, where they flux the hell out of the chip and just drag an iron across the leads -- also looks easy, but all I can imagine is one massive solder bridge.
You using a stencil or trying to eyeball it?
Gonna eyeball it.
 
I've never used a stencil -- I've only seen videos of stencils being used. In every instance, the builder used the stencil, placed the components and then used a hot plate to do the weld. I've never seen anybody use a stencil with hot air, but I suppose you could. @JTEX showed me a video of him doing SMD with an iron, but he clearly has done it a few times, and as easy as he makes it look, I doubt that it's as easy as he makes it look. Maybe one day I'll have the confidence to try that, but not yet.

I've also seen videos of people using the drag method, where they flux the hell out of the chip and just drag an iron across the leads -- also looks easy, but all I can imagine is one massive solder bridge.

Gonna eyeball it.
There are "SMD practice kits" on AliExpress for a couple bones if you want some no risk practice
 
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Not the prettiest, but I think it worked.

EDIT: -- Although, I may never know if I was successful. While trying to hook it up to a spring loaded test lead, I inadvertently launched it across the room. After 20 minutes of crawling around my office on my hands and knees, I gave up and soldered another one. Second one looks better and it tested good. (y)
 
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Not the prettiest, but I think it worked.

While trying to hook it up to a spring loaded test lead, I inadvertently launched it across the room. After 20 minutes of crawling around my office on my hands and knees, I gave up and soldered another one.
I hate when that happens! Especially when it's the the last part of a given value I have on hand. :ROFLMAO:
 
I just ordered some .015 solder and an SMD solder practice board. I'm going to try it with an iron next. The paste works fine, but I found it hard to get it to stick to the pad without squirting too much on there.
I had the same problem doing jfets. Doing one pad at a time it’s almost impossible to dispense a small enough amount out of the syringe. I think my best looking results were squirting out a little pile, then dabbing it on with a clipped resistor lead.
 
I had the same problem doing jfets. Doing one pad at a time it’s almost impossible to dispense a small enough amount out of the syringe. I think my best looking results were squirting out a little pile, then dabbing it on with a clipped resistor lead.
Yeah, that's kind of how I ended up doing it in the end. The paste would adhere better to the syringe than it did to the pad, so I squirted out a little pile and used the tip of my tweezers to smear a little on the pad.
 
Yeah, that's kind of how I ended up doing it in the end. The paste would adhere better to the syringe than it did to the pad, so I squirted out a little pile and used the tip of my tweezers to smear a little on the pad.
Makes me wonder if that is why folks use the stencils and then squeegee the paste through the stencil holes onto the board pads
 
Makes me wonder if that is why folks use the stencils and then squeegee the paste through the stencil holes onto the board pads
I'm sure that's a big part of it, but I also think if you're populating a whole board with SMD parts and using a hot plate or an oven, it's just easier to assemble everything all at once if you can spread the paste and then just stick your parts down. If I ever do an SMD PCB, you can bet I'll spend a little extra to get the stencil.
 
When I started doing minimal SMD rework, someone recommended this tip (or analogous type for your iron), and it's perfect. Flux up the pads and part, get whatever solder this tip will hold (not much), and it's perfect.

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Boogered that one leg, though…

I've seen some people do the homebrew/jury-rigged clothes iron as a hot plate.

I've only tried paste a few times, but for larger jobs it would be preferable to a tip, even a small one
 
When I started doing minimal SMD rework, someone recommended this tip (or analogous type for your iron), and it's perfect. Flux up the pads and part, get whatever solder this tip will hold (not much), and it's perfect.

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Boogered that one leg, though…

I've seen some people do the homebrew/jury-rigged clothes iron as a hot plate.

I've only tried paste a few times, but for larger jobs it would be preferable to a tip, even a small one
I don't know -- looks pretty good. And yes, I've seen hackers take a clothes iron and turn it into a hot plate (the thought has definitely crossed my mind).

I don't have a T-12 iron (kind of wish I did sometimes), but my iron came with a 1mm tip that I think will work.
 
I’ve never seen a real smd stencil, but I wonder if it would be worth xacto-knifing a little three hole stencil out of card stock for doing those jfets one at a time.

Here's three that I've used quite a bit.

The one on the left is specifically for the FV-1 Development PCB, it applies paste to the FV-1 and CH341 IC simultaneously.
Center is SOT23, right is FV-1.

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If you order one pre-made it'll be small, like this, but I wanted mine oversized so they could act as a reservoir for a large blob of paste while doing multiple PCBs back to back. There's also a good bit of margin for squeegeeing in any direction.

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