Well I found a guitar I like!

HamishR

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After posting that I couldn't find a guitar that I liked - well, one worked it's way into my attention. I have always wanted a Tele Thinline with single coils in either butterscotch or natural finish. I don't know why, but almost all of my guitars are hollow or semi-hollow. In fact I have only one solid body guitar - an incredible Les Paul. There has been a '68 RI Tele Thinline at a local store for about a month now, and I have been to try it a couple of times. Something was putting me off and I couldn't work out what it was. The neck is actually one of Fender's better attempts recently and maybe it was the feeling of polish residue or something which was putting me off - it felt a bit unfriendly. But now that it's been restrung and cleaned it feels perfect - a fantastic slim neck but not too flat. It just feels right. Thankfully there is some height in the frets. Even on some RI Fenders which are supposedly fretted with "narrow high" frets they dress them so low they feel vintage. These feel great.

It's nice and lightweight to hold but not sonically. Other Thinlines I have played in the past have sounded kind lightweight and thin - maybe they were the older Japanese RIs? This one has a big gutsy sound with a very clear high end but it's not that harsh high end I found on a recent '50s Tele. Maybe it's the pickups, maybe the semi-hollow body, but whatever it's easily now the best sounding Tele I have played in ages.

The stock bridge pickup is amazing. I tried another Tele bridge pickup I just happened to have in my cupboard (I think it's a Nocaster) but the stock one is way better. It has "hot" written underneath and it is, but it also has a very clear, bright twang to it which I don't normally associate with hot pickups. It's a great sounding pickup. Big sound, bright and clear with a sweet high end. No harshness at all.

I mentioned finding Tele pickups in my cupboard - well I tried the neck pickup from my cupboard and wow - it's perfect! Not sure what it is - maybe a Twisted Tele? I remember hating it another guitar ages ago, but in this one it is absolutely perfect, and matches the bridge well. I normally take ages to try new pickups but these ones were there already... The stock neck pickup was just a little wimpy.

The only other thing I can think of to make this guitar better might me a matt black Nocaster type pickguard. I remember Fender did some Nocaster Thinlines from the Custom Shop a few years ago, and I really liked the single-ply black fibreboard pickguards. That could be cool. But overall, I am really delighted with this guitar and really, it's probably better than I was expecting. Tele TL.JPG
 
After posting that I couldn't find a guitar that I liked - well, one worked it's way into my attention. I have always wanted a Tele Thinline with single coils in either butterscotch or natural finish. I don't know why, but almost all of my guitars are hollow or semi-hollow. In fact I have only one solid body guitar - an incredible Les Paul. There has been a '68 RI Tele Thinline at a local store for about a month now, and I have been to try it a couple of times. Something was putting me off and I couldn't work out what it was. The neck is actually one of Fender's better attempts recently and maybe it was the feeling of polish residue or something which was putting me off - it felt a bit unfriendly. But now that it's been restrung and cleaned it feels perfect - a fantastic slim neck but not too flat. It just feels right. Thankfully there is some height in the frets. Even on some RI Fenders which are supposedly fretted with "narrow high" frets they dress them so low they feel vintage. These feel great.

It's nice and lightweight to hold but not sonically. Other Thinlines I have played in the past have sounded kind lightweight and thin - maybe they were the older Japanese RIs? This one has a big gutsy sound with a very clear high end but it's not that harsh high end I found on a recent '50s Tele. Maybe it's the pickups, maybe the semi-hollow body, but whatever it's easily now the best sounding Tele I have played in ages.

The stock bridge pickup is amazing. I tried another Tele bridge pickup I just happened to have in my cupboard (I think it's a Nocaster) but the stock one is way better. It has "hot" written underneath and it is, but it also has a very clear, bright twang to it which I don't normally associate with hot pickups. It's a great sounding pickup. Big sound, bright and clear with a sweet high end. No harshness at all.

I mentioned finding Tele pickups in my cupboard - well I tried the neck pickup from my cupboard and wow - it's perfect! Not sure what it is - maybe a Twisted Tele? I remember hating it another guitar ages ago, but in this one it is absolutely perfect, and matches the bridge well. I normally take ages to try new pickups but these ones were there already... The stock neck pickup was just a little wimpy.

The only other thing I can think of to make this guitar better might me a matt black Nocaster type pickguard. I remember Fender did some Nocaster Thinlines from the Custom Shop a few years ago, and I really liked the single-ply black fibreboard pickguards. That could be cool. But overall, I am really delighted with this guitar and really, it's probably better than I was expecting.View attachment 33219
Something like This:

Tele TL.JPG
 
After posting that I couldn't find a guitar that I liked - well, one worked it's way into my attention. I have always wanted a Tele Thinline with single coils in either butterscotch or natural finish. I don't know why, but almost all of my guitars are hollow or semi-hollow. In fact I have only one solid body guitar - an incredible Les Paul. There has been a '68 RI Tele Thinline at a local store for about a month now, and I have been to try it a couple of times. Something was putting me off and I couldn't work out what it was. The neck is actually one of Fender's better attempts recently and maybe it was the feeling of polish residue or something which was putting me off - it felt a bit unfriendly. But now that it's been restrung and cleaned it feels perfect - a fantastic slim neck but not too flat. It just feels right. Thankfully there is some height in the frets. Even on some RI Fenders which are supposedly fretted with "narrow high" frets they dress them so low they feel vintage. These feel great.

It's nice and lightweight to hold but not sonically. Other Thinlines I have played in the past have sounded kind lightweight and thin - maybe they were the older Japanese RIs? This one has a big gutsy sound with a very clear high end but it's not that harsh high end I found on a recent '50s Tele. Maybe it's the pickups, maybe the semi-hollow body, but whatever it's easily now the best sounding Tele I have played in ages.

The stock bridge pickup is amazing. I tried another Tele bridge pickup I just happened to have in my cupboard (I think it's a Nocaster) but the stock one is way better. It has "hot" written underneath and it is, but it also has a very clear, bright twang to it which I don't normally associate with hot pickups. It's a great sounding pickup. Big sound, bright and clear with a sweet high end. No harshness at all.

I mentioned finding Tele pickups in my cupboard - well I tried the neck pickup from my cupboard and wow - it's perfect! Not sure what it is - maybe a Twisted Tele? I remember hating it another guitar ages ago, but in this one it is absolutely perfect, and matches the bridge well. I normally take ages to try new pickups but these ones were there already... The stock neck pickup was just a little wimpy.

The only other thing I can think of to make this guitar better might me a matt black Nocaster type pickguard. I remember Fender did some Nocaster Thinlines from the Custom Shop a few years ago, and I really liked the single-ply black fibreboard pickguards. That could be cool. But overall, I am really delighted with this guitar and really, it's probably better than I was expecting.View attachment 33219
My Artist Guitars Humbucker version of this has the 3 ply gloss Black with white skirting & it looks Great!
 
Yup the black pickguard does look good!

Next mod? Well I try to take my time over these things. If I feel it necessary, I might get some Marc Rutters straight comp steel saddles. I love the sound of steel saddles and like having a groove for the string so it doesn't wander as it can on the regular brass saddles. Rutters' straight comp saddles aren't angled, as their name might suggest. Rather, he cuts a groove with the correct break point for perfect intonation. Strings stay put, play in tune and you can't see the groove when the guitar is strung up. Brilliant!

I wouldn't mind some domed nickel plated knobs so it feels that there is more room between them. And a smaller switch cap. Rutter does a cool switch cap out of nickel plated brass which looks like a mini-knob.

But really, I'm pretty darn happy with it as-is right now. :-)
 
I’ve had one of those on my radar for a while now. Those sound amazing, I played with a guy that had one, they can do metal, too.🤣
 
I don't know if my Thinline is typical but I like it better than a solid body. But I usually do... The Thinline has a smoother high end and has more low-end punch than I was expecting. It really is my kind of Tele.
 
+1 on the Rutters saddles. They makes good stuff. I have the compensated cold rolled steel saddles and bridge plate. it made a huge difference in intonation and tone. whether it was an improvement in tone is up to the listener. For me, it made the guitar a little bolder which sounded a little less twangy, which I appreciated as a tele still has plenty of twang.
 
Now THIS is a heck of a great idea from Rutter.....just a wee bit more room to hit the toggle, which is a particular pain in the butt for the 4 way switching on both my Teles.

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I had that exact setup on a Tele a few years ago. Marc Rutters makes great stuff. Unfortunately you can't use this on a Thinline.

I'm thinking that dome knobs and a smaller switch cap would make using the controls on the thinline a bit easier. But I'll persist with the stock setup for a while - It seems ok.
 
Awesome guitar, Hamish. I've always been fond of those thinlines. I love the shape of the pickguard on them.
 
+1 on the Rutters saddles. They makes good stuff. I have the compensated cold rolled steel saddles and bridge plate. it made a huge difference in intonation and tone. whether it was an improvement in tone is up to the listener. For me, it made the guitar a little bolder which sounded a little less twangy, which I appreciated as a tele still has plenty of twang.

Looks like Gotoh heavily borrowed (definitely copied) rutters saddle design for their intune range. They're basically identical as far as I can see
 
They do indeed look damn near identical. That's a bit rude! I wonder if they came to an arrangement with Mr Rutters?
 
They do indeed look damn near identical. That's a bit rude! I wonder if they came to an arrangement with Mr Rutters?

Absolutely no idea but I have a set of gotoh saddles on my tele and they're fantastic. The intonation is pretty much bang on. I'd never heard of Rutters guitars when I bought mine. I saw someone post his slanted tele plate on TGP and then spotted his saddles on the site.

I had a look and his definitely released first so there's no doubt gotoh did the copying.
 
Gotoh has been making those "In Tune" saddles for a long time. I don't know whether or not who copied who but I've been using them for quite a while. Gotoh also makes the "slant compensation" style which are actually very good on most guitars.
But for me I get some string movement on the high E that drives me nuts.

That said, Rutter's stuff looks lovely. The clip on his site is interesting comparing the sound of the different saddle materials. Especially mixing them up. I think it was Titanium for the EA strings and brass for the others.
That actually makes a ton of sense....and has me thinking......hmmmmmm.......
 
One thing I really dislike about the Gotoh, if you buy the whole bridge with the "In Tune" saddles, it doesn't show in the pictures but it's stamped "In Tune" in a cheesy looking font. That's the bridge on my Thinline when I built it. I wasn't annoyed enough to swap out the bass plate but this thread had got me reconsidering it.....hahahhaha.. I have a feeling I'm gonna be giving Mr. Rutter some of my money.
 
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