Help Me With a Bluetooth Project

BuddytheReow

Breadboard Baker
Hey Guys,

Not guitar pedal related, per se, but a project I am working on. I've got some pretty good, albeit old, speakers that I'm trying to hook up to a bluetooth transmitter and amplifier that I'm going to stuff into a 125b enclosure (along with other items making this a utility box) and utilizing a 9V adapter as the primary input. From the 9V input I'll utilize charge pumps and voltage regulators. I decided to pull the trigger on these from Tayda to start with.

Here's the bluetooth module.

And here's the amplifier.

The amplifier works pretty well if I hook it up to a charge pump at ~17V or so and is loud enough for my needs. I don't think my problem is here since I've used something like this in the past.

My problem is actually with the bluetooth receiver. It's not inherently loud (hence the need for the amplifier), but it constantly puts out a 800Hz hum that is quite annoying in addition to whatever audio I put through it. Making a crude noise gate (2 diodes in parallel) cuts out to much overall signal. Adding a few kOhm resistor helps, but also quiets the output signal.

My question is pretty simple: how do I get rid of this 800Hz hum? My gut is telling me its not worth the time trying to put lipstick on a pig and I should just go find a different bluetooth chip. If that is the case, can anyone recommend a decent and inexpensive bluetooth module for audio? For reference, I'll be connecting my phone to it for some Spotify shenanigans.
 
I've got nothing useful for you, but I've watched a few reviews of these Fosi ZD3s lately, and have been thinking about getting one as a way to stream audio to one of several ancient stereo rigs.

I'll be interested to see if you can accomplish the same thing for $3 including an amp!

 
Update

I decided on a whim to figure out why the bluetooth module is causing this hum. Tried hooking the module to my bench supply, which is separate from the other supply and there is no issue now. The hum occurs if I use my 9v supply or a battery. Could this just be DC cross talk between devices?
 
Alright. Scratch that. Hooking up a 9v battery to the module via regulator and I get squeaky clean sound. Amp is on a separate supply.

Thinking out loud, this is either a current issue (probably not) or cross talk with the amplifier. For the record I tried a DIY amp using a LM386 as per the datasheet and still got this hum.

Next to try out is taking the main 9v input and putting this through a simple buffer, which should electrically isolate everything. Right? I mean, in theory it should work.
 
I've got nothing useful for you, but I've watched a few reviews of these Fosi ZD3s lately, and have been thinking about getting one as a way to stream audio to one of several ancient stereo rigs.

I'll be interested to see if you can accomplish the same thing for $3 including an amp!

I’ve got one of the small Fosi amps that I use to power a pair of bookshelf speakers in my office/pedal & guitar workshop, and it works great. Tough to beat for the price.

 
I'm gonna be DIY stubborn about this and not try to "buy" the solution unless I have to. There's gotta be a way to get this going. My 9v supply is an old daisy chain that I may try to take advantage of. This will be my lunch break today. Sigh
 
I'm gonna be DIY stubborn about this and not try to "buy" the solution unless I have to. There's gotta be a way to get this going. My 9v supply is an old daisy chain that I may try to take advantage of. This will be my lunch break today. Sigh
I definitely didn't mean to try and talk you out of it! It would have never even occurred to me to try and DIY something like that. Very interested to hear how that project works out for you.

I spend so much time thinking about DIY 1960s pedal tech, I forget there are all kinds of cool modern DIY electronics projects out there to play with.
 
So, what I think will work is having 2 separate power supplies: the 9v main supply and a rechargeable battery. There's too much cross talk powering the bluetooth and amp on a single supply. The battery will power a switch with LED ring and the bluetooth module. I also have a LED light bar that will be powered by the 9V main, but that will be on a separate switch. Setting it up this way on a rude and crude breadboard with 895820359 alligator clips gives me the result I need. The battery will have to be externally mounted on a clip. No big deal since it will be tucked away in a corner of my bench, but kinda annoying. I just wanted it to flipping work. Oh well. I guess I should start drilling my enclosure.
 
Thinking out loud, this is either a current issue (probably not)
Did you look at the datasheet for the devices in question? What charge pump are you using and is it capable of delivering the required current?

The bluetooth module says it will pull around 20mA from a 5V supply, not a huge deal. A typical charge pump should be able to run that.

The amplifier module says it will pull up to 3A. When I hear "charge pump" I assume a switched-capacitor DC-DC converter like the LMC7660 and such. Those are great for things like guitar pedals, but the max output of those is still going to be less than 50mA, you're not getting anywhere close to 3A.
 
Did you look at the datasheet for the devices in question? What charge pump are you using and is it capable of delivering the required current?

The bluetooth module says it will pull around 20mA from a 5V supply, not a huge deal. A typical charge pump should be able to run that.

The amplifier module says it will pull up to 3A. When I hear "charge pump" I assume a switched-capacitor DC-DC converter like the LMC7660 and such. Those are great for things like guitar pedals, but the max output of those is still going to be less than 50mA, you're not getting anywhere close to 3A.
So, I decided to ditch the charge pump and just power the amp with my 9v, 1A main supply. On its own plus the LED light bar (same supply) they both work fine.

I also have this that I can try as a step down converter to 5V, but there may be some current issues and I'll go back to my idea above. I'll circle back once I get the time to try it out.

 
So, I decided to ditch the charge pump and just power the amp with my 9v, 1A main supply. On its own plus the LED light bar (same supply) they both work fine.

I also have this that I can try as a step down converter to 5V, but there may be some current issues and I'll go back to my idea above. I'll circle back once I get the time to try it out.

XL6019 is a step-up converter, not step down. If you're looking for a low noise way to step down to 5V I would strongly recommend something like L7805.
 
A 78l05 is what I’ve been using. The only other possibility I can think of is using a coupling capacitor between the Bluetooth and amp, like in pedals between circuit blocks.
 
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