“How did they make that sound” thread
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Aentons
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It's the most prominent thing I hear when the distortion kicks in. He is still playing the same high notes he plays clean in the intro, but when the distortion kicks in the high notes are distorted and there is an octave (or 2?) below also distorted. I don't hear it in any other live performance, but it is definitely in the recorded version.Where are we talking about exactly? I don't hear any octave.
During the intro when the distortion kicks in? It sounded to me like he just hit the top two strings like a double stop by mistake.
You can also hear some weird artifacts from it right before he turns it off to go clean again
Aentons
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I have a bass xo microsyth. I.didnt even think to give it a try on that.
Aentons
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But it sounds like a single note melody, not just chords
jimilee
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Yep, it’s very clear sounding. I don’t think he’s playing chords just single notes.
Robert
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I'm familiar with the single note riff with the lower octave (or more likely doubled) from the album, but I don't hear it in this live version.
The riff I'm talking about isn't the signature intro clean part, it's a single droning note that gets bent up a half step, 8th fret G string.
There aren't enough guitars for that here though, since Billy is playing the intro riff and James is playing the chords.
If there's an octave during this particular tour, my bet is that it's the Eventide H3000.
The riff I'm talking about isn't the signature intro clean part, it's a single droning note that gets bent up a half step, 8th fret G string.
There aren't enough guitars for that here though, since Billy is playing the intro riff and James is playing the chords.
If there's an octave during this particular tour, my bet is that it's the Eventide H3000.
Aentons
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I think they maybe changed how they play it in later versions so that James could play the g string part and Billy plays chords.
Aentons
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It is similar but I think that has the g string part an octave down rather than the high part. Sounds good, definitely not terrible.
Robert
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This should be from around that time.
I know he's used a lot of random stuff in the studio, but on tour back then I think it was mostly rack equipment controlled by some sort of MIDI system. I can't think of the name... my mind keeps saying MIDIGator but I don't think that was it.
It seems like it was an acronym....
I know he's used a lot of random stuff in the studio, but on tour back then I think it was mostly rack equipment controlled by some sort of MIDI system. I can't think of the name... my mind keeps saying MIDIGator but I don't think that was it.
It seems like it was an acronym....
Aentons
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Cool, it definitely could have been the Eventide.
Robert
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I believe that clip above is from around '93 (it is, it says so in the title, duh), so could be before he started using the DHP-55, but he apparently did use it on Today....
Digitech DHP-55 Five Part Digital Harmony Processor. Used by Billy Corgan on the 1995-1997 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness album and tour. The unit includes Billy Corgan's settings for the following songs: Hummer, Cherub Rock, Drown, Soma, Rocket, and Today. The unit has been kept in a smoke-free studio environment. No cables or manuals are included. A certificate of authenticity will be included. Unit is sold "as is".
Digitech DHP-55 Five Part Digital Harmony Processor. Used by Billy Corgan on the 1995-1997 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness album and tour. The unit includes Billy Corgan's settings for the following songs: Hummer, Cherub Rock, Drown, Soma, Rocket, and Today. The unit has been kept in a smoke-free studio environment. No cables or manuals are included. A certificate of authenticity will be included. Unit is sold "as is".
Aentons
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Interesting. Could be it but It honestly doesn't sound like a glitchy whammy type octave. I have a whammy 2 and in the past had the other IPS33 rack version, both with the IVL chip and they have a sound all there own
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giovanni
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And it sold for only $800?!?
Harry Klippton
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Oh, no wonder I can't buy one for a reasonable price 
Sounds like a detuned guitar (at least on the low string(s)) with a generous reverb and a good amp. I would guess the flat wound sound is from low string tension. See Joey Landreth for similar examples.
andare
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It's D standard. That's all. Only flatwound strings do that thing on the slides because of how stiff they are. It has nothing to do with the tuning or the rig.