BuddytheReow
Breadboard Baker
To truly make my pedalboard 100% DIY a tuner would be nice/needed. Just throwing this out there…
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fig
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andare
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What a coincidence, I just bought a tropical aquarium
DAJE
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You know, if you were to make your own tropical fish capacitors, I bet you could sell them for $20 each on TGP.
I'm pretty sure I've already seen metal film 1/4 Watt resistors with baked-on pretend carbon film coatings. You know, so they "look right" in vintage-style pedals.
Harry Klippton
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Wait I have a nano non plus and I have room for one more pedal?
andare
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I have my power supply on the board because I can't afford to spend 200 euros on a slim power supply that mounts under. Or rather i don't want to spend that amount on a power supply. I can buy a guitar for the price of a Cioks DC7 for crying out loud
mybud
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You can take a fish to water but you can’t necessarily make its temperament equal.
peccary
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I've had mine for at least a decade (the large one, not the tiny one) - how the heck does a tuner just die? That's a drag.
I’ll admit that the idea of building my own tuner had crossed my mind a few times, just because of the “I built everything in my rig” sort of way…but then again, I’m also a pedal steel player and I’ve only had mild delusions of building my own pedal steel guitar.
Which brings me to my next point: playing PSG involves some tuning oddities. Most PSG players use some tuning other than equal temperament because it sounds better on the long sustains that we do so much of. Plus, we also have to compensate for “cabinet drop” where some strings are being raised by the pedals and the other strings tend to drop in pitch a little. To make a long story slightly less long, I’ve been using a regular old pedal tuner and manually applying the tuning offsets I need for each string and each pull by looking at how sharp or flat the note is on the tuner “needle” and comparing to a chart I have saved in my phone. Peterson includes all these offsets preprogrammed into their tuners, and one of these days I’m going to break down and spend the money for one. I just don’t believe I have the programming knowledge to build my own BASIC tuner, much less one with the ability to offset individual pitches by a certain number of cents sharp or flat.
Which brings me to my next point: playing PSG involves some tuning oddities. Most PSG players use some tuning other than equal temperament because it sounds better on the long sustains that we do so much of. Plus, we also have to compensate for “cabinet drop” where some strings are being raised by the pedals and the other strings tend to drop in pitch a little. To make a long story slightly less long, I’ve been using a regular old pedal tuner and manually applying the tuning offsets I need for each string and each pull by looking at how sharp or flat the note is on the tuner “needle” and comparing to a chart I have saved in my phone. Peterson includes all these offsets preprogrammed into their tuners, and one of these days I’m going to break down and spend the money for one. I just don’t believe I have the programming knowledge to build my own BASIC tuner, much less one with the ability to offset individual pitches by a certain number of cents sharp or flat.
Oh, and incidentally, the discussion about clip-on tuners is interesting to me, because they work fine on PSG for the most part if the stage is quiet. But the thing about vibrations in the stage messing up the tuner is even more of a problem for steel since the danged thing sits on legs.
BuddytheReow
Breadboard Baker
I do have an Arduino unit somewhere. Maybe I’ll look into that. I know nothing about coding, but I’m sure I can copy/paste something good
Feral Feline
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I swear I'm the only one who doesn't like the PB, everybody else I know that has one loves theirs. Alas, every 1 in a million sparkplugs right out of the factory is a dud (long story on how I know that), so I'm guessing I got a PB built on a Friday 10 seconds before quitting time...
I liked DAJE'S forge idea, I think I'm going to forge ahead with that. Need to forage for parts to make one...
Imagine ... in a galaxy not so far away, not so long ago, a young squire learning to smith and brandish his own light-weight sabre before working up to a rapier and then a large claymore ... "Use the Forge, Luke!"
I also liked the Elektor DIY tuner Temol posted.
FIG! I odda make an Oida tuner but side-jacks I don't like one iota.
fig
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I know. My Polytune be all side-jacking too.
Feral Feline
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There are at least two tuners I know of that use top jacks.
One was from Peterson (the original Strobostomp, IIRC) but then they screwed up by sticking sidejacks into that latest lovely huge-screen Strobo...
One was from Peterson (the original Strobostomp, IIRC) but then they screwed up by sticking sidejacks into that latest lovely huge-screen Strobo...
Mentaltossflycoon
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I own the blue beast which... yes is ahead of it's time with top jacks but defeats itself by being annoyingly wide and taking up tu2 level real estate anyway. Still a great tuner which mostly lives on my garage bench for intonating bridges. I was jelly of that big ass screen for a minute and considered an upgrade before I bought the rockstock. Couldn't hang with the size and sidejacks.There are at least two tuners I know of that use top jacks.
One was from Peterson (the original Strobostomp, IIRC) but then they screwed up by sticking sidejacks into that latest lovely huge-screen Strobo...
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Feral Feline
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Bippity-bappity-bumpity-boo!
The Doyen of tuning realised what a mistake they made with going from Top-Jacks to sidling up to the ol' paradigm of doom —
at last, TOP JACKS again. Well, sorta...
Well, Peterson is 2/3 the way there, now.
9V-barrel jack on the side kind of defeats the purpose of top-jacks. Would've been better to have the USB port on the side, IMnotsoHO, BUT at least the USB-C port can also be used to power the pedal. Can this possibly replace my beloved Turbo unit?
Just yet another reason an arduino/raspberry/whatever DIY-TUNER would be fanfreq'n'tasty.
The Doyen of tuning realised what a mistake they made with going from Top-Jacks to sidling up to the ol' paradigm of doom —
at last, TOP JACKS again. Well, sorta...
Well, Peterson is 2/3 the way there, now.
9V-barrel jack on the side kind of defeats the purpose of top-jacks. Would've been better to have the USB port on the side, IMnotsoHO, BUT at least the USB-C port can also be used to power the pedal. Can this possibly replace my beloved Turbo unit?
Just yet another reason an arduino/raspberry/whatever DIY-TUNER would be fanfreq'n'tasty.
Harry Klippton
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Oh balls I kinda want thatBippity-bappity-bumpity-boo!
The Doyen of tuning realised what a mistake they made with going from Top-Jacks to sidling up to the ol' paradigm of doom —
at last, TOP JACKS again. Well, sorta...
Well, Peterson is 2/3 the way there, now.
9V-barrel jack on the side kind of defeats the purpose of top-jacks. Would've been better to have the USB port on the side, IMnotsoHO, BUT at least the USB-C port can also be used to power the pedal. Can this possibly replace my beloved Turbo unit?
Just yet another reason an arduino/raspberry/whatever DIY-TUNER would be fanfreq'n'tasty.
You could rehouse this little guy in a 125B. Tayda’s new shape hole cutting works incredibly, maybe just jb-weld this unit in, and wire up the jacks. Btw, this is the first I’ve seen this little tuner, so I can’t say for sure how accurate or how well it works.
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Unless you were to design the hardware circuit and code, I don’t think this would be any less DIY-ethos than a plug&play diy module if such a thing existed.
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Unless you were to design the hardware circuit and code, I don’t think this would be any less DIY-ethos than a plug&play diy module if such a thing existed.
