Font talk

What is the difference between a font and a typeface? I was always told off in a studio for saying font.

BTW I'm old enough to have been to the typesetter to collect text for marking up in a design firm. Typesetting was a real art, decimated by Quark and later Indesign becoming so prevalent in design studios.
I haven’t thought about Quark forever.
 
I wish. I was reading “How to change your mind” so I was interested in the chemistry part. I’ve actually never tried them, is it really a transcendental experience like some say?
I never did acid, but for several years (1978-82?) grew ‘shrooms, and used them maybe once a month during those years. I’m not sure the extent they ”transformed“ me, but I could absolutely see this happening.

My son was unusually opaque to reading others’ emotions when he was younger, to an extent that had both my wife and I concerned, and we had several psychologists assess him, to see if there was some reason that he showed so little empathy.

By 13 or so, he suddenly changed, and really seemed to connect with people. We didn’t question it, but were, of course, relieved. At some point in the past 6 months, in talking to him (he’s 29 now), he mentioned that he had dropped acid around then*, and during that first trip, had suddenly understood how interconnected everything was, and suddenly “got” other people. So yes, I think psychedelics can be transformative, if not transcendental.

When I’ve been able to get them, I have still done mild (but beyond what could be called microdosing) trips. My wife and I did that last year for our anniversary, just sitting in our backyard and enjoying everything for the afternoon.

* I feel I must stress that we would NOT have been okay with this!

editted to add: very enjoyable, and well informed book!
 
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Control panel text does look pretty close to Eurostile.

What badge is this from? I’ve never seen one with such soft edges but I also haven’t seen a lot. I imagine thats just an artifact of an imperfect engraving process, and if thats what you’re going for I suppose Conthrax is a decent fit. But I’m telling ya, its Eurostile. Last person to doubt my (different context) ID of Eurostile in this thread was wrong too lol

Also Pollan’s how to change your mind rules :)
 
What badge is this from? I’ve never seen one with such soft edges but I also haven’t seen a lot. I imagine thats just an artifact of an imperfect engraving process, and if thats what you’re going for I suppose Conthrax is a decent fit

Also Pollan’s how to change your mind rules :)
Yeah, looks to me to be a eurostile that was engraved by a bit that wasn’t small enough to get sharp corners. Could probably replicate it even closer than conthrax by doing eurostile extended bold scaled to be the correct height for a HiWatt badge (around 1”, right?) and limiting all exterior corners to a 6mm roundover (since that’s likely the size bit used for engraving the badge in that case) then scaling it down to whatever size you need.
 
You can use the terms interchangeably, and most people wouldn't care about it.
But for the record: a font is a specific representation of a typeface. Futura is a typeface. Futura Bold, or Futura Italic are fonts.
That begs the question: is a variable font a typeface? But those are discussions best left for people who love categorisations... 😆
I personally don't care what people use, as long as you can understand what they mean.
It’s kind of like a language and a dialect of said language, only you see it instead of hear it.
 
Yeah, looks to me to be a eurostile that was engraved by a bit that wasn’t small enough to get sharp corners. Could probably replicate it even closer than conthrax by doing eurostile extended bold scaled to be the correct height for a HiWatt badge (around 1”, right?) and limiting all exterior corners to a 6mm roundover (since that’s likely the size bit used for engraving the badge in that case) then scaling it down to whatever size you need.

This is exactly how I’d do it too. Conthrax is not even round in the correct places. It’s eurostile, its the only typeface they’ve ever even really used apart from the player name badges
 
You are 1000% right.

I’m just stubborn and have to see it for myself before I join in.

It’s definitely one of those things where the longer you’ve been working with type the easier it is to know what aspects can fall within the margin of reproduction error (pre digital typography is beautifully riddled them) and still be the same face. Thanks for seeing the light before you gave me a stroke
 
The time, effort, nuance that goes into making a quality typeface is incredible.

So many attributes, most of which aren't controllable in run of the mill, everyday programs, get overlooked when someone clones one just to get through a legal loophole to make it "free." And it shows.

Occasionally a friend or association would ping me and ask me what a certain font was and want me to point them to it: "can't you just find a free one?" I would often get. No. You can get a cheap-@$$ knockoff, maybe, but it won't be the real thing. They'd be too determined to just want that thing as quickly as cheaply as possible. That was usually the end of my involvement on whatever project they were doing.

I didn't go all Patrick Bateman or anything, I just couldn't be bothered. I'm also not claiming to be lord arbiter of all that is typography. That title belongs to Robert Bringhurst.
 
Ah, the semantics game!

They always spells words.

They, like, may not “work” for you bro….
Are you talking about open source fonts or whatever files you’re downloading? The latter can have incomplete glyph sets, errors in the file structure, or other corruption (that’s assuming they are indeed don’t files and not something else). I’m not talking about whether or not they’re fit for purpose as a font in a particular use case.

And, please don’t call me bro.
 
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