General hobby Q – do you ever find it a bit exhausting?

There has already been a lot of good advice in this thread, but I also started building pedals a lot around February, coincidentally, and have built around similar numbers as you.

The way I see it, I've had a couple of weeks off where I haven't done any pedal stuff, but I don't even consider them "breaks". A hobby doesn't mean you have to work on it every week. If it feels like you don't have the energy now, you don't have to do it now.

For me the supply issue is not so bad since I get all my enclosures drilled and printed at Tayda, so I order the enclosures and parts for a couple of pedals at a time. Sometimes supplemented by orders for parts they don't carry from other places. I also like the graphical design aspects, but that can also at times feel like a burden - right now I need to finish the next set of graphics so I can get the enclosures faster, so I need to double check 6 pdf files for any errors. It's a hassle, but I also love the graphics, so it has it's own rewards.

I've also avoided some pedals which have parts I couldn't find easily. For example I ordered the Low Tide as a kit because it had some difficult to source parts, although it turns out you can just substitute most of them easily. That's also something you definitely should look into more, like others mentioned.

I also don't dare post my latest build because I ran out of film caps and had to cram in two caps in one slot - multiple times. That plus some drill planning mistakes means it's horrible on the inside. But for me, what's on the outside (and how it sounds) are more important - others seem to find a lot of satisfaction in making the inside as neat and clean as possible. You might want to think about which part is the most rewarding for you.

I would also consider the juggling of multiple orders to be a balance between work and money. More work to optimize your orders for the lowest cost, or you can skip the work and spend "unnecessary" money on the extra shipping. This of course also depends on how much spare income you can spend on building pedals without worries, but also if it feels like this bogs you down, maybe you could build less pedals for a bit more money and a lot less frustration? Or just look into kits too, I would assume Musikding is not a great option in the US but Aion at least has some kits.
 
This comment actually resonates with me a lot.

In all candor, and because I’m among friends, I picked up this hobby earlier in the year after a very long term (around 20 years) relationship ended. It’s been a wonderful way to channel my energies, make productive use of newfound free time, and gain a lot of new knowledge (and friends). But I’ve also noticed that I tend to finish a build, try it out and play with it a bit, and then go right into planning to build the next one, which is probably a bit overboard on the “coping mechanism” aspect of this whole thing. I haven’t really given myself the opportunity to just play them all nearly as much as I should – especially since that is what they were built for in the first place.

I’ve managed to build all the pedals I need to cover the bases for the types of music I play, and now I am at the point of building different “flavors“ of the types of pedals I already have. But, although I’m not looking to take a break right now, I can definitely see one at some point in my future just to enjoy the fruits of what I have accomplished rather than just jumping manically straight into another build.

M

It doesn't have to be about just playing with the boxes.

When we go on vacation, we always wind up back home. If it's all about the destination, why leave home at all?
Why must we journey at all?

If "Home" is the effects box, then we could just buy the commercial pedal we need to express ourselves in our playing and be done with it.
For many musicians, it's just that exactly.

However, for us pedal-building musicians, it's not just about the destination. It's about what sights and insights we find and make along the builder-journey's path to the destination.

The journey can be arduous and exhausting. After a long road-trip, it's good to get home again and be in familiar surroundings and sleep in your own bed. We appreciate being home that much more from having travelled.

Build your pedals, enjoy building them. Enjoy when it's time to just stay "home" and jam with what you've already made. Rest-recuperate from the build-journey, and as time wears on you'll find that itch to travel/build again, to realise a tweak or mod to a circuit that enables you to express yourself as a builder, and possibly as a player as well. Building and playing, each informs the other.


And so the pendulum swings from yin to yang, and back again, bringing balance to our universe.
 
I got into all of this (amp building and then pedal building) chasing a sound. Well, that and chasing a tone that I could afford. And along the way I have found that it doesn't have to be expensive to be good, but good quality parts can help in some places.

I am getting to a point now where I have been able to get a great sound with a few different pedals, and this year has been particularly fruitful. Partly because of experience, and partly thanks to how much useful stuff I have learnt here, particularly from Chuck. I still don't really understand electronics but have learnt enough to be able to shape my sound a little better than before. And just this week, after thinking I had got my basic overdrive sound down as good as I could get it, I stumbled across an even better circuit while experimenting with something I never imagined would work in the way it has ended up sounding. It was an accident.

So now I'm into building combo pedals. This new circuit, based on the Angry Andy, now sounds very unlike an Angry Andy but I'm calling the Angry Man. As I'm building it into an enclosure with the boost from the Dane I'm calling it the Angry Danish Man, although it might become the Viking.

So as far as I can see into the future I'll be experimenting and tweaking a bit more and possibly trying to build an analog delay. But I also don't mind having a break from it if I can't get excited about building anything. And that was where I was before I discovered this Angry Man pedal.

Any hobby has its ups and downs. I nearly had a break!
 
Putting together my stash has been exhausting.

I have about 10 boards ready to go as soon as I design and order the printed enclosures from Tayda. Zero drive to do that, probably because I was a graphic designer for over 20 years. The thought of opening Illustrator makes me puke in my mouth a little.

I just had to order some MLCCs to complete a Phaser that I can't box up because I have no enclosures. Can't be bothered to place yet another order with another vendor that doesn't have 500 other things I need.

Then I have a few fuzz pedals on breadboards looking for the right transistors. Can't be bothered to swap them out until they work.

I finished the Karaoke Chorus last week and I've been playing through it non stop. Immediately wrote a new section to an old song.

Breaks are sometimes needed. Also money. Never enough money.
 
I finished the Karaoke Chorus last week and I've been playing through it non stop. Immediately wrote a new section to an old song.

Karaoke Chorus is currently on my workbench; I plan to combine it with the Celsius Preamp in a 1590DD to try to get the full “CE-1” effect as @MichaelW showed in a recent demo. Just waiting for the upcoming sale that Robert mentioned to order the Celsius along with a few other things I need. It’s good to hear another favorable review of the Karaoke.

Mike
 
I have two PCBs left to turn into pedals. I will definitely be making more pedals eventually, but for now, I'm (almost) done.

I'm hanging around the forum here because I still find it interesting and I like the people, but I probably won't be building a lot more pedals. Of course if I win a giveaway I'm sure I'll find a few more to add to the pile...
 
It doesn't have to be about just playing with the boxes.

When we go on vacation, we always wind up back home. If it's all about the destination, why leave home at all?
Why must we journey at all?

If "Home" is the effects box, then we could just buy the commercial pedal we need to express ourselves in our playing and be done with it.
For many musicians, it's just that exactly.

However, for us pedal-building musicians, it's not just about the destination. It's about what sights and insights we find and make along the builder-journey's path to the destination.

The journey can be arduous and exhausting. After a long road-trip, it's good to get home again and be in familiar surroundings and sleep in your own bed. We appreciate being home that much more from having travelled.

Build your pedals, enjoy building them. Enjoy when it's time to just stay "home" and jam with what you've already made. Rest-recuperate from the build-journey, and as time wears on you'll find that itch to travel/build again, to realise a tweak or mod to a circuit that enables you to express yourself as a builder, and possibly as a player as well. Building and playing, each informs the other.


And so the pendulum swings from yin to yang, and back again, bringing balance to our universe.
When I build, I’m rarely thinking about building, it’s usually sorting things in my head and solving the problems of the world.
 
I am getting to a point now where I have been able to get a great sound with a few different pedals, and this year has been particularly fruitful. Partly because of experience, and partly thanks to how much useful stuff I have learnt here, particularly from Chuck. I still don't really understand electronics but have learnt enough to be able to shape my sound a little better than before. And just this week, after thinking I had got my basic overdrive sound down as good as I could get it, I stumbled across an even better circuit while experimenting with something I never imagined would work in the way it has ended up sounding. It was an accident.

This, along with some other trains of thought in this thread, made me realize something I never really thought too much about until now:

Listening to a huge range of music has probably made me branch out into different types of circuits more than anything.

I manage a tattoo shop here in St. Louis and one part of that, trivial as it may seem, is djing (being a hair glib) for 10 hours a day. We avoid stereotypical tattoo shop music and play everything from jazz, bluegrass, old foreign pop, funk, krautrock, exotica, doom metal, shoegaze, whatever you name it. There's a big difference between getting to listen to music 10 hours a day and having to - and one aspect of that is that I am constantly listening to new music and new types of music, with different kinds of instrumentation and sounds that I've never thought of.

My music taste "comfort zone" is doom metal / desert rock and it's no coincidence that before our shop opened I was mostly building and interested in fuzzes and now I completely get the appeal of soft clipping drives, can nerd out about compressor topographies, etc, etc.
 
Karaoke Chorus is currently on my workbench; I plan to combine it with the Celsius Preamp in a 1590DD to try to get the full “CE-1” effect as @MichaelW showed in a recent demo. Just waiting for the upcoming sale that Robert mentioned to order the Celsius along with a few other things I need. It’s good to hear another favorable review of the Karaoke.

Mike
Make sure to use shielded wire for the output at least. I have ticking on bypass in chorus mode due to the LM358 being so close to the output jack. I solved it almost completely with a shield over the IC.
Chorus will be louder than vibrato, keep that in mind when you set the gain trimpot.
 
Make sure to use shielded wire for the output at least. I have ticking on bypass in chorus mode due to the LM358 being so close to the output jack. I solved it almost completely with a shield over the IC.
Chorus will be louder than vibrato, keep that in mind when you set the gain trimpot.
Thanks for the advice. I always use shielded cable now and, luckily for me, this will be a 2-in-1 build in a large 1590DD - so my plan has always been to keep both input and output jacks as far away from the Karaoke board as possible.

Mike
 
Thanks for the advice. I always use shielded cable now and, luckily for me, this will be a 2-in-1 build in a large 1590DD - so my plan has always been to keep both input and output jacks as far away from the Karaoke board as possible.

Mike
Eagerly awaiting your build report!
 
But then I thought “How about designing a line of pedals like if they were a real product, centered more on the design and personality of the product than the technical side?” (I’m a Graphic Designer, after all). So, I started doing that. And since I’m treating it like a real product, I decided to switch to EasyEDA, that allows me to order an almost complete board if I want to do that in the future. So that’s what I’m doing now:
I have about 10 boards ready to go as soon as I design and order the printed enclosures from Tayda. Zero drive to do that, probably because I was a graphic designer for over 20 years. The thought of opening Illustrator makes me puke in my mouth a little.
First of all, yes the parts problem.
It's even worse if you're trying to do everything to a budget - because then you don't buy in bulk and just one offs... and then you end up buying 10 different parts on eBay for silly money.
I made a FrogFX F1b PCB up last year and don't even want to know how many little bits I ended up ordering because I wasn't organised!

But anyway - also a graphic designer, in a marketing team ....and also conflicted about the whole "lets do this to professional standards and make it look great" vs "argh the last thing I want to do right now is think about design". I think I might just make my next lot visually influenced by Fairfield
 
Too many posts to read here. But ill
Throw out a few things I e been doing to keep myself preoccupied from building/wasting money on building my 5th Chorus or 15th overdrive that might sound slightly different than the other 14 but I’m still just goin gro use the 3 I like.

Breadboard stuff. Try different things in the circuit. The blues breaker is one I like playing wirb (as apparently wvery boutique builder does too.

Build something different. I’m currently working on a pedal board amp using is tda3118 module. It’s been fun. Playing with preamp stuff etc. adding an aid input, deciding if an fx loop has any point etc.

Start playing around with pcb layout stuff. Breadboarding stuff is cool but you just came up with something you think is awesome. Layout a pcb and make it happen. Or just make a perf or strip board layout for it.

I find these things take more time than throwing together a pedal and I feel much more reward in the end. If I was one that did crazy graphic stuff I might go that route.
 
I'll add some advice from the woodworking forums, "if you treat your hobby like a business, it can become a business," which can be taken two different ways:

If you're diligent and serious, you could stand to actually make some money doing this and maybe grow it into something bigger...

or, if you work at your hobby like a business, it might just become work.
 
I have spells when I don't build much, like the last year spending my free time remodeling a camper, but that project is mostly done and I'm getting geared up again! If I start churning out projects akin to @MichaelW it's only because I'm finally boxing up some projects, I've had enclosures done and boards populated that only need off board wiring!
 
Acquiring parts is a part of the hobby
Not for all of us.

I don't like to spend time making long lists of parts on electronic websites. I found a great way to avoid completely this aspect of the building process : I buy kits on Musikding.

For exemple, my last order is 4 full kits, 16 knobs, 4 leds, 4 dc jacks. Quick and simple. Took me 10 minutes to choose the kits and complete the order. It feels like i took all my time.

There are so much kits available on this website that i doubt i'll ever be short on interesting projects.

If i am curious about something specific that doesn't exist as a kit, or something simple enough to avoid a real pcb and use perfboard or vero, i'll do the boring shop list. But that's maybe 5% of my builds. Happens barely 3 or 4 times a year.

Could also be a social class factor : I am always in the red zone with money, so buying things online is quite an anxiety-inducing moment.
Some parts are cheap, but there's always the 10 euros shipping fee. I have to make each order matter in order to dampen the shipment fee.
Shopping probably isn't as satisfying as if I was wealthy, and didn't have to care about paying the rent and eating something decent the next day...

In september i'll go pick some grapes for 15 days in Champagne for the first time. Working as fast as possible, I expect to earn 2000 euros in 2 weeks : i'll be working for the wrong aristocratic people, looking at workers with despise, but i'll be rich and hope to build my first tube amp.

I spend much time painting the enclosure, and very few time doing shopping lists. I guess the pedal building universe is slightly different for all of us.
We don't have the same background, so we won't give our attention to the same points of interest.

Like two people watching the same movie, but they remember two different stories.
 
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Thanks for the advice. I always use shielded cable now and, luckily for me, this will be a 2-in-1 build in a large 1590DD - so my plan has always been to keep both input and output jacks as far away from the Karaoke board as possible.

Mike
I need shielded wire - what am I looking for in online shops? Search terms throw up thick mic cables
 
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