Should I expect to pay Tariffs on Tayda Orders?

ThatDude

ThatDude

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Hi All. Can someone confirm my understanding of the new tariffs and the changes to the de minimis law about paying tariffs on imports is correct? The de minimis law of not having to pay tariffs on goods under $800 still applies so long as the shipment is not being imported from China or Hong Kong, right? I don’t think I’ll have to pay the new tariff rate for my next Tayda order, but I am not sure. Thanks in advance.
 
My current assumptions from whatever I've been able to find:

De minimis is still in place today. Anything under 800 is still tariff free.

De minimis for China is scheduled to go away May 2nd. Stated intention is to remove it for all countries later - date not yet announced.

One part that gets confusing for me is how Tayda shipments for items manufactured in China will be treated after May 2nd.

My original assumption was that whatever I bought from Thailand would just be subject to the Thailand rules, but a recent post here claimed that tariffs would be applied per item based on what country they were manufactured in. That seems like a crazy admin nightmare, but from what I've read about the rules for "Country of origin" that could be the case.

But even if that's the case, would it only apply if the total of the shipment from Thailand exceeded 800? I don't know.


Bottom line - Nobody here has reported paying any tariffs on any shipments under 800 yet. It seems like a safe bet that if you stay under 800 and you can get your shipment to customs before May 2, you're good.

And, this next part is a wild guess on my part - but I bet there won't be any tariffs applied to anything from Tayda until de minimis goes away for Thailand - which hasn't been scheduled yet.
 
Erik S said:
My current assumptions from whatever I've been able to find:

De minimis is still in place today. Anything under 800 is still tariff free.

De minimis for China is scheduled to go away May 2nd. Stated intention is to remove it for all countries later - date not yet announced.

One part that gets confusing for me is how Tayda shipments for items manufactured in China will be treated after May 2nd.

My original assumption was that whatever I bought from Thailand would just be subject to the Thailand rules, but a recent post here claimed that tariffs would be applied per item based on what country they were manufactured in. That seems like a crazy admin nightmare, but from what I've read about the rules for "Country of origin" that could be the case.

But even if that's the case, would it only apply if the total of the shipment from Thailand exceeded 800? I don't know.


Bottom line - Nobody here has reported paying any tariffs on any shipments under 800 yet. It seems like a safe bet that if you stay under 800 and you can get your shipment to customs before May 2, you're good.

And, this next part is a wild guess on my part - but I bet there won't be any tariffs applied to anything from Tayda until de minimis goes away for Thailand - which hasn't been scheduled yet.
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Country of Origin is a slippery one with some loopholes. I was talking to my Vimex rep and he mentioned that they had a customer with requirements that no components come from mainland China, but they needed a rotary switch that was only produced in their China factory, so their solution was to ship the Chinese switch to their facility in Taiwan where a knob was applied. At this point it became "assembled" in Taiwan and no longer considered a Chinese component.

I could easily see things like enclosures going through drilling/powdercoating/UV printing and being considered a Thai product at that point. It's a little different with things like resistors and caps, but one could argue that once they are removed from the manufacturer's packaging and re-packaged in Thailand, they have been "processed" in Thailand and are therefore a Thai part.

Along the same lines, when I sell PCBs internationally I declare them as a product of the USA because that's where they were removed from the manufacturer packaging, often depanelized, visually inspected, sorted, and repackaged.
 
vigilante398 said:
Country of Origin is a slippery one with some loopholes. I was talking to my Vimex rep and he mentioned that they had a customer with requirements that no components come from mainland China, but they needed a rotary switch that was only produced in their China factory, so their solution was to ship the Chinese switch to their facility in Taiwan where a knob was applied. At this point it became "assembled" in Taiwan and no longer considered a Chinese component.

I could easily see things like enclosures going through drilling/powdercoating/UV printing and being considered a Thai product at that point. It's a little different with things like resistors and caps, but one could argue that once they are removed from the manufacturer's packaging and re-packaged in Thailand, they have been "processed" in Thailand and are therefore a Thai part.

Along the same lines, when I sell PCBs internationally I declare them as a product of the USA because that's where they were removed from the manufacturer packaging, often depanelized, visually inspected, sorted, and repackaged.
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Clear as mud! :LOL:

Also - looks like an hour ago Trump backed off most of the whole thing for everyone except China. Hopefully that means Tayda is in the clear for a while anyway.
 
Erik S said:
I believe that was bad timing during the brief period where de minimis was removed, then quicky reinstated when everything backed up at the postal service.
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Duties were owed on my last three JLCPCB orders, all below $800, all shipped by DHL.

There was one that I thought had no fees but I received a bill in the mail about a week later.


I did manage to slip one small order (5 pcs) through shipped Global Direct with no additional fees.
 
ThatDude said:
Hi All. Can someone confirm my understanding of the new tariffs and the changes to the de minimis law about paying tariffs on imports is correct? The de minimis law of not having to pay tariffs on goods under $800 still applies so long as the shipment is not being imported from China or Hong Kong, right? I don’t think I’ll have to pay the new tariff rate for my next Tayda order, but I am not sure. Thanks in advance.
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70/40 chance you will pay a tariff, depending on the day.
 
Robert said:
Duties were owed on my last three JLCPCB orders, all below $800, all shipped by DHL.

There was one that I thought had no fees but I received a bill in the mail about a week later.


I did manage to slip one small order (5 pcs) through shipped Global Direct with no additional fees.
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We're levying tariffs on uninhabited islands - have you checked the list? Maybe there's a tariff on your house.
 
fontoponto said:
Is it insider trading when you tell everyone to buy an then change the market to your liking?
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Sure seems like it when your message was “buy“ and then ended with “DJT” which is the stock ticker for his publiclly traded media group which was down by 12% at the time he mad his announcement and suddenly 20% up afterward.
 
Erik S said:
looks like an hour ago Trump backed off most of the whole thing for everyone except China
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Well, all countries besides China still have 10% tariffs, plus higher tariffs on certain things from Mexico and Canada.
I have read through all the announcements put out by the White House, and honestly they are confusing. Even the White House later admitted they'd forgotten about an additional 20% tariff on China from a couple weeks ago, so China actually now faces 145% tariffs. I did read that de minimis for China ends May 2, but it wasn't clear (to me) whether that would apply to Thailand and it's present 10% tariff.

ThatDude said:
Can someone confirm my understanding of the new tariffs and the changes to the de minimis law about paying tariffs on imports is correct?
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All I can add to this conversation is that I ordered a $50 Tayda parts order (+~$10 more for DHL shipping) on April 3, which was shipped April 5 then returned back to Tayda for more documents, and then reshipped earlier this week - it arrived this evening with no tariff. Fingers crossed hoping that I don't receive a bill in the mail next week.

If I was a business person considering a large international order, I would wait on it because this is just too crazy and uncertain. Trump may change his mind tomorrow, rates may go down (or up) in a week or a month, etc. This is exactly why so many major companies are pausing / delaying orders. On top of this, my email inbox is now filling up w/ all sorts of sales and discounts from many different vendors in the last couple weeks. So I am starting to sense that a recession may be coming our way...
 
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