The Bostonian leftist: No Wah But Class Wah

Stickman393

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You like pedals? How bout 'dem pedals?

Let out your collective groan here. Now. Please. I live for it.

Whelp, here's my Tearjerker. Tweaked to be similar to my RMC Wizard wah. I settled on BC108's. Carbon Fiber baseplate, Sabbadius soul inductor, 10pF caps across the collector and base of each transistor. HFE for Q1 around 250, HFE for Q2 around 350.

Chase tone pot FOR NOW...probably gonna swap for a few other tapers. I find the chase tone to be a bit abrupt in it's sweep for my tastes.

Switchable input & bypass Jfet buffer (Remains in the signal path both during bypass and wah). ST italy momentary switch (Definitely NOT soft-click) and relay bypass. Battle-scarred with a file, sheet metal scribe, center punch, handheld engraver, and dremel.

The faceplate design was inspired by a conversation I was having with @Nostradoomus, our beloved cynical sayer of sooth. Honestly, I'm gonna mess with the design a little more in lightburn and get it exactly where I want it, but I was excited to post the rough draft. Many thanks to the man for allowing me to bounce my ideas off him and for being the ABSOLUTELY not Sean Parker to my ABSOLUTELY not Mark Zuckerberg.

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I'll tell you what, If Geoffry Teese saw that I was sharing that schematic he'd be pissed as hell. As I've been going through my little wah obsession, researching, buying wahs, measuring components, yada blah, I've come across a couple of his posts online. He *really* doesn't like it when people reverse engineer his stuff.

Which, yeah, it's an understandable impulse. Dude has spent a large chunk of his life, it seems, becoming an expert on wah pedals and their history. It seems like it's what he's done to earn his living.

Its a tendency shared by many other folks in the "boutique" space. It's what drives them to goop their circuits, hem and haw about trade secrets, talk about magic diodes, and fiercely defend what they believe is theirs and theirs alone to know. Many of these tendencies in marketing are not unlike a magician's act: the art of misdirection. Making the person who buys your product *feel* like they're buying a truly magic signal manipulator that imbues one's toan with the magic that made the "greats" so great.

All this stuff...knowledge of electronics, circuit design, soldering skill, is all specialized information. But it is also relatively widespread. Anybody with sufficient skill can reverse-engineer a circuit board. By simply doing what they do to earn a living, they are transmitting that information to the outside world. It's an impossible situation to be in: you have to know that by continuing to sell your product you make it less likely that you'll be able to earn a living in the future. That it's just a matter of time until somebody out there gets curious and learns your secrets.

So I sympathize with the impulse that folks have to shame and rage against those who do. Its a standpoint that makes emotional sense...its a threat to one's ability to continue earning a living. To the ability to survive. Which...

Well. I will refer back to the political philosophies that influenced my art design.

There is a tendency for those who succeed in our society, who are granted access to specialized information, to hoard said information. It does become the focus of their life's work, and it does become something that they work *very* hard on. I cannot take that away from them. I do not wish to take their hard work away from them.

But learning about electronics and guitar pedals, like learning about music, requires emulation. The impulse here is "You just copied all my hard work!". Ignoring the fact that the boutique builder themselves initially started by copying all the hard work of those that came before them. There is nothing new under the sun. Nobody is so special that they are immune from emulation.

Hell, if it weren't for the imminent threat of starvation and eviction and death that we all have to deal with on a daily basis because our system uses our fear of being eaten by a Cave Bear to keep us at our stations...one could even see the more natural response here being flattery. These folks have gotten *very* good at what they do. They are worthy of emulation in the design space...if not so much the hoarding of information space.

My own philosophy requires me to leave the ladder that I climbed up in place. It also requires me to send down a rope so the next guy can get his bag up a bit easier. Believe me: I'd love to be able to quit my day job as an HVAC mechanic and not have to answer to my boss anymore...but even if I did, I could not escape the fact that I am not special. No one, really, is. Death comes for us all. Dying alone is no way to die.

I dunno. Go steal something from a self checkout line today, folks.*

*Stickman in no legally binding way endorses stealing from self-checkout lines. This is a joke. That stickman might also believe is your moral duty. Jokingly. Partially. Who knows? Its so ambiguous that maybe the joke is that it isn't a joke, but its even funnier if it actually is a joke. Stickman also is a proud American that believes the FBI are totally cool guys, pinky swear.
 
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You had me up to this point:



I dunno. Go steal something from a self checkout line today, folks.

The momentary thrill does not outweigh the gravity of getting knicked for knicking something so petty — “this WILL go on your permmmanent wreckoard”.

If you’re going to steal, go big —grand-theft larceny from a rich phat-cat who’s ensured and then everyman’s rates go up to pay for phat-cat’s misfortune. Better still, embezzle directly from the insurance company…
🤡


I dunno, it all reminds me of pharmaceuticals, where only those that can afford them get them even though the whole of society would benefit greatly overall if everyone got the drugs.



Grace’s (yes, we’re on a first name basis) cover of Roxy Music’s song is paid for, but for those that steal a lick, or those who fundamentally contributed to a hit without fair compensation… — At what point does the emulation become infringement?

Does the fact that I was never going to be a customer of Mr Teese exonerate me from using that posted schematic? Either way, he wasn’t going to have my cash…

If I got a free TV from the person that looted it, I could still be charged with possession of stolen property. (Gad I’m old, that TV envisioned in the just-described scenario was a CRT-monster, not even a flat Plasma…)



Thanks for sending down the rope, Mr Stickman!
 
I'll tell you what, If Geoffry Teese saw that I was sharing that schematic he'd be pissed as hell. As I've been going through my little wah obsession, researching, buying wahs, measuring components, yada blah, I've come across a couple of his posts online. He *really* doesn't like it when people reverse engineer his stuff.

Which, yeah, it's an understandable impulse. Dude has spent a large chunk of his life, it seems, becoming an expert on wah pedals and their history. It seems like it's what he's done to earn his living.

Its a tendency shared by many other folks in the "boutique" space. It's what drives them to goop their circuits, hem and haw about trade secrets, talk about magic diodes, and fiercely defend what they believe is theirs and theirs alone to know. Many of these tendencies in marketing are not unlike a magician's act: the art of misdirection. Making the person who buys your product *feel* like they're buying a truly magic signal manipulator that imbues one's toan with the magic that made the "greats" so great.

All this stuff...knowledge of electronics, circuit design, soldering skill, is all specialized information. But it is also relatively widespread. Anybody with sufficient skill can reverse-engineer a circuit board. By simply doing what they do to earn a living, they are transmitting that information to the outside world. It's an impossible situation to be in: you have to know that by continuing to sell your product you make it less likely that you'll be able to earn a living in the future. That it's just a matter of time until somebody out there gets curious and learns your secrets.

So I sympathize with the impulse that folks have to shame and rage against those who do. Its a standpoint that makes emotional sense...its a threat to one's ability to continue earning a living. To the ability to survive. Which...

Well. I will refer back to the political philosophies that influenced my art design.

There is a tendency for those who succeed in our society, who are granted access to specialized information, to hoard said information. It does become the focus of their life's work, and it does become something that they work *very* hard on. I cannot take that away from them. I do not wish to take their hard work away from them.

But learning about electronics and guitar pedals, like learning about music, requires emulation. The impulse here is "You just copied all my hard work!". Ignoring the fact that the boutique builder themselves initially started by copying all the hard work of those that came before them. There is nothing new under the sun. Nobody is so special that they are immune from emulation.

Hell, if it weren't for the imminent threat of starvation and eviction and death that we all have to deal with on a daily basis because our system uses our fear of being eaten by a Cave Bear to keep us at our stations...one could even see the more natural response here being flattery. These folks have gotten *very* good at what they do. They are worthy of emulation in the design space...if not so much the hoarding of information space.

My own philosophy requires me to leave the ladder that I climbed up in place. It also requires me to send down a rope so the next guy can get his bag up a bit easier. Believe me: I'd love to be able to quit my day job as an HVAC mechanic and not have to answer to my boss anymore...but even if I did, I could not escape the fact that I am not special. No one, really, is. Death comes for us all. Dying alone is no way to die.

I dunno. Go steal something from a self checkout line today, folks.*

*Stickman in no legally binding way endorses stealing from self-checkout lines. This is a joke. That stickman might also believe is your moral duty. Jokingly. Partially. Who knows? Its so ambiguous that maybe the joke is that it isn't a joke, but its even funnier if it actually is a joke. Stickman also is a proud American that believes the FBI are totally cool guys, pinky swear.
I sincerely hope you and stick wife have stick spawn. In this moment, only so I can see the write up of the third grade diorama that stick dad "helped" with.

...so I CNCed the blade for the guillotine out of a dollar store soda can, representing both the nearly pre-deteemined struggle of the rural poor's access to quality foods and their near certain diagnosis with diabetes and/or obesity and ostensibly early dispatching. Further it signifies the plight of corporate greed who's business decisions and mere operations crumble small local economies, often leaving their place of business as the only source of food-- ultimately contributing to the crumbling of the health of said economy as well.
For the gallows, we injection molded melted plastic Walmart shopping bags to..."

"Stickdad, what does this have to do with the solar system?"
 
@Feral Feline

LOVE the questions.

Keep in mind that I joke about stealing. Sorta. Not really.

I don't consider myself a scholar of left-wing thought: I'm only an individual that has become somewhat radicalized in my own critiques of capitalism. I do my best to understand what those who came before me thought, though, and keep in mind that while "radical" may have turned into a bit of a dirty word in modern discourse, the actual definition has become muddied.

I think Angela Davis said it best:

"Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"

So in terms of something like intellectual property rights:

Property rights is a central theme of the left-wing critique of Capitalism. Marx in particular was extremely skeptical of private property as a foundational building block of society. The way things currently work is that Intellectual property rights are a commodity. It is reserved only for those who obtain necessary documentation to prove their ownership of said IP, and it allows those individuals to sell their intellectual property to another individual.

The price paid for said IP at the time of sale is not necessarily tied to its value: all kinds of things can impact the prices at which things are exchanged for. One party may be desperate for cash. One party may have more information about the value of said thing than the other, or may have leverage over the other individual in terms of...say...if one party employs that individual.

Think about the Nike Swoosh. It's an iconic symbol that has worldwide recognition. It represents $26 billion in value to the Nike corporation, and it was bought for a grand total of $35 dollars from the artist in 1971. Now...nobody could have known, back then, what that symbol would grow to become. But it's an undeniable element of the marketing strategy that contributed to the growth of the corporation, and those who most directly profited from it *had no hand in its creation*. Its an odd arrangement that represents how individuals are able to utilize private property ownership to, basically, underpay individuals for services rendered.

And just to be totally upfront: I don't particularly have any fully fleshed out theories on how something like intellectual property can be better handled. All I can say is that...if you look at what's happening there...it hardly seems like a fair arrangement to the individual that created the logo.

I cant deny that Private Property has a certain kind of appeal. Shoot, I'm a homeowner. But it's also the sort of thing that comes into conflict with something that I feel far more passionately about: Human Rights.

Little extremely personal digression...to illustrate part of why I feel the way I do here.

I had a friend that I met in elementary school. We grew up together. He was Japanese, with deep roots in the local community. He regularly attended at his Buddhist Temple. His grandmother was interned in WWII. His family was relatively wealthy...not extremely so, but they had benefitted from the rise in property values here in the Bay Area over the past few decades, and his father worked in a field that was high in demand. He was an only child...something of a free spirit, good natured, never forgot where he came from and the folks that helped him along the way. In his younger life he was an eagle scout, after he graduated from UC Riverside he went on to become a relatively successful DJ. He loved music, lived a completely sober life in the last decade of his life, and would often drive folks home from the places that he was DJing at if they were too inebriated to drive.

You might have caught that he's no longer with us. He was shot on Christmas day, 2022, in the early hours of the morning. He was unarmed. He was also not a particularly imposing figure: we used to tease him when we were growing up about how short he was. He was *maybe 5'3". He was on somebody's front lawn in Cupertino, California. The home of apple computer...our shared home town where we grew up together.

I don't know what happened that day. Knowing what I know about him: he had no reason to be there for nefarious purposes. He had a house a few miles away that he was living in that his family had inherited from his grandmother: the same one we used to play nintendo and watch star wars in on the days I spent with him after school as a boy. I haven't been able to find any additional information on what happened. He didn't have any history of addiction, or mental health disorders, or anything along those lines. And we were in the sort of friends where I would have noticed: I *had* experienced those things.

The homeowner was never charged with a crime. I do not know why. I can only guess. But something that undoubtedly played into the homeowner's defense against the police is that my friend was standing on his property. And property, in Cupertino, is now *extremely* expensive. Its an incident that has stayed with me and altered the way I think about things like private property. His life was very dear to me. The ways in which our society can prioritize the property rights of individuals over the lives of individuals on that property...there is an injustice there that I can't shake.

/extremely personal digression.

Anywho, I'm an open minded cat. Curiosity is part of why I started building pedals: I like to learn what makes things tick. How they work. With that in mind: I would say that, in terms of using that schematic for personal use, there are absolutely no ethical qualms here.

I wouldn't endorse just copying it and claiming that it's your own design and re-selling it. I wouldn't even endorse re-selling it and claiming that it's a Teese design, because A) it wouldn't be, it's a tweaked version of an existing circuit that was designed in the 1960's, B) you would need to be able to recreate the inductor and potentiometer that Mr. Teese uses, which is a difficult feat in and of itself...not to mention the exact model of the transistors remains unknown, and C) courtesy.

While I find issue with some of the man's explanations for why he finds such ire with those who reverse-engineer his designs...it is true that he makes his living off of selling these pedals, and the man has done a lot for the community in terms of sharing some of his knowledge about the history of wah pedals and their functionality. I would not want to infringe on his direct space, because we all swim in this ocean and need to be able to co-exist without squabbling amongst ourselves over the few resources that we have access to. Dude's gotta eat.

Whoo. Why do i write essays? I write really long posts. I guess I've got a lot on my mind.
 
@Feral Feline

LOVE the questions.

Keep in mind that I joke about stealing. Sorta. Not really.

I don't consider myself a scholar of left-wing thought: I'm only an individual that has become somewhat radicalized in my own critiques of capitalism. I do my best to understand what those who came before me thought, though, and keep in mind that while "radical" may have turned into a bit of a dirty word in modern discourse, the actual definition has become muddied.

I think Angela Davis said it best:

"Radical simply means 'grasping things at the root'"

So in terms of something like intellectual property rights:

Property rights is a central theme of the left-wing critique of Capitalism. Marx in particular was extremely skeptical of private property as a foundational building block of society. The way things currently work is that Intellectual property rights are a commodity. It is reserved only for those who obtain necessary documentation to prove their ownership of said IP, and it allows those individuals to sell their intellectual property to another individual.

The price paid for said IP at the time of sale is not necessarily tied to its value: all kinds of things can impact the prices at which things are exchanged for. One party may be desperate for cash. One party may have more information about the value of said thing than the other, or may have leverage over the other individual in terms of...say...if one party employs that individual.

Think about the Nike Swoosh. It's an iconic symbol that has worldwide recognition. It represents $26 billion in value to the Nike corporation, and it was bought for a grand total of $35 dollars from the artist in 1971. Now...nobody could have known, back then, what that symbol would grow to become. But it's an undeniable element of the marketing strategy that contributed to the growth of the corporation, and those who most directly profited from it *had no hand in its creation*. Its an odd arrangement that represents how individuals are able to utilize private property ownership to, basically, underpay individuals for services rendered.

And just to be totally upfront: I don't particularly have any fully fleshed out theories on how something like intellectual property can be better handled. All I can say is that...if you look at what's happening there...it hardly seems like a fair arrangement to the individual that created the logo.

I cant deny that Private Property has a certain kind of appeal. Shoot, I'm a homeowner. But it's also the sort of thing that comes into conflict with something that I feel far more passionately about: Human Rights.

Little extremely personal digression...to illustrate part of why I feel the way I do here.

I had a friend that I met in elementary school. We grew up together. He was Japanese, with deep roots in the local community. He regularly attended at his Buddhist Temple. His grandmother was interned in WWII. His family was relatively wealthy...not extremely so, but they had benefitted from the rise in property values here in the Bay Area over the past few decades, and his father worked in a field that was high in demand. He was an only child...something of a free spirit, good natured, never forgot where he came from and the folks that helped him along the way. In his younger life he was an eagle scout, after he graduated from UC Riverside he went on to become a relatively successful DJ. He loved music, lived a completely sober life in the last decade of his life, and would often drive folks home from the places that he was DJing at if they were too inebriated to drive.

You might have caught that he's no longer with us. He was shot on Christmas day, 2022, in the early hours of the morning. He was unarmed. He was also not a particularly imposing figure: we used to tease him when we were growing up about how short he was. He was *maybe 5'3". He was on somebody's front lawn in Cupertino, California. The home of apple computer...our shared home town where we grew up together.

I don't know what happened that day. Knowing what I know about him: he had no reason to be there for nefarious purposes. He had a house a few miles away that he was living in that his family had inherited from his grandmother: the same one we used to play nintendo and watch star wars in on the days I spent with him after school as a boy. I haven't been able to find any additional information on what happened. He didn't have any history of addiction, or mental health disorders, or anything along those lines. And we were in the sort of friends where I would have noticed: I *had* experienced those things.

The homeowner was never charged with a crime. I do not know why. I can only guess. But something that undoubtedly played into the homeowner's defense against the police is that my friend was standing on his property. And property, in Cupertino, is now *extremely* expensive. Its an incident that has stayed with me and altered the way I think about things like private property. His life was very dear to me. The ways in which our society can prioritize the property rights of individuals over the lives of individuals on that property...there is an injustice there that I can't shake.

/extremely personal digression.

Anywho, I'm an open minded cat. Curiosity is part of why I started building pedals: I like to learn what makes things tick. How they work. With that in mind: I would say that, in terms of using that schematic for personal use, there are absolutely no ethical qualms here.

I wouldn't endorse just copying it and claiming that it's your own design and re-selling it. I wouldn't even endorse re-selling it and claiming that it's a Teese design, because A) it wouldn't be, it's a tweaked version of an existing circuit that was designed in the 1960's, B) you would need to be able to recreate the inductor and potentiometer that Mr. Teese uses, which is a difficult feat in and of itself...not to mention the exact model of the transistors remains unknown, and C) courtesy.

While I find issue with some of the man's explanations for why he finds such ire with those who reverse-engineer his designs...it is true that he makes his living off of selling these pedals, and the man has done a lot for the community in terms of sharing some of his knowledge about the history of wah pedals and their functionality. I would not want to infringe on his direct space, because we all swim in this ocean and need to be able to co-exist without squabbling amongst ourselves over the few resources that we have access to. Dude's gotta eat.

Whoo. Why do i write essays? I write really long posts. I guess I've got a lot on my mind.
If your posts are a form of catharsis, then please keep posting.

Your friend’s (and your’s) story doth make a heavy heart 💔. My belated but heartfelt condolences.
Too many such stories.


There are so many “swoosh” stories, too — if the designer of the Swoosh had even 0.1% of sales capped to Idunno 15–20 years?

Flea has mentioned he’s not happy ‘bout bustin’ a bodaciously Bosstastic bass-line that bolstered [libellous renaming of artist redacted] management’s financial baseline while Flea’s own fee fell flat…writing credit & financial Move A Bust.



A magazine bought a MTB-travel feature from me, ran the story and paid me for a one time printing — they did not pay me for ANY of my photos, nor did the publisher pay me for reprints in unmentioned mag nor in any of its magazines within its stable … lacking lawyer-lira I had/have no litigation-recourse — talk about MissCommunication MissManagement.


Owning property is an illusion, as easements will attest, and ANY government will bend to corporate greed communal need…appropriate your home in whatever way as is necessary.

Nail-Houses exist globally, but perhaps one of the more infamous is this elderly couple’s:


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Wah all this has to do with your wonderful wah is a stretch.

Wahdn’t it be good to wah under your shoes
Even if it wahs for just wahn day?
Wahdn't it be good if we could wah ourselves awahy?
 
[libellous renaming of artist redacted]
Redacting is ok. You Oughta Know who it is.
(Edit- ok I get it. Flea has been screwed over more than once!)

Regarding the topic at hand. I worked as a recording engineer for 7 years. The same thing happens, people guard knowledge around how they get “the sound”. I never kept what I did a secret. Because they would still have to do “the work” anyway, to get to the point where they know what decisions to make. I showed artists my tricks, because bigger engineers on bigger records that I assisted on showed me their tricks. It didn’t stop them from booking sessions.
 
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