Thorpyfx Electric Lightning
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darwin999
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So you're saying @Robert could do better - probably a lot better - right? WE AGREE, that's what we're requesting!!!
I'm confused for some of the negative comments here, I'd kill for anything remotely close to Chris's sound on this video - and I'm an old guy who grew up on Harrison, Clapton, etc. After a little reading, I'm not surprised that Steve Winwood helped Chris Buck's band get started after hearing them at a recital.
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Also, many people on this forum build their own tube amps, which use even higher voltages and much higher (thus more lethal) currents. Hey, from my past research life, I'm a longtime member of the Kilovolt Klub*. I'm still game for this one.
And I believe @Drayve85, @Haz + others here agree.
* Kilovolt Klub members have *accidentally* touched a voltage source greater than 1kV, and survived. And we're talking real gear that can source real current, so running across a carpet on a winter's day doesn't count. Unsurprising, a fair fraction of experimental scientists are members...
I'm confused for some of the negative comments here, I'd kill for anything remotely close to Chris's sound on this video - and I'm an old guy who grew up on Harrison, Clapton, etc. After a little reading, I'm not surprised that Steve Winwood helped Chris Buck's band get started after hearing them at a recital.
Chris Buck's Signature ThorpyFX Electric Lighting Plexi Style Tube Preamp suitably delivers exquisite tube tones alongside superior dynamics
First hand review of the Signature Chris Buck ThorpyFX Electric Lightning Plexi-style Tube Preamp
www.guitarpedalx.com
Also, many people on this forum build their own tube amps, which use even higher voltages and much higher (thus more lethal) currents. Hey, from my past research life, I'm a longtime member of the Kilovolt Klub*. I'm still game for this one.
And I believe @Drayve85, @Haz + others here agree.
* Kilovolt Klub members have *accidentally* touched a voltage source greater than 1kV, and survived. And we're talking real gear that can source real current, so running across a carpet on a winter's day doesn't count. Unsurprising, a fair fraction of experimental scientists are members...
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Where I find this Demo lacking is the Rythm side of the Pedal!
Yes, it has great searing tones but Bloated when a chord is strummed.
It annoys me when Demo's are done & people get pulled in by that lead solo & it's coming from an Amp on the verge of breakup but not shown!
& where's some Funk rythm playing & general Rythm playing in the demo with the pedal bypass them played with the pedal on.
This is $700.00 AU, it needs to be capable of playing everything that it is based around being a Marshall JTM45 type pedal!
Yes, it has great searing tones but Bloated when a chord is strummed.
It annoys me when Demo's are done & people get pulled in by that lead solo & it's coming from an Amp on the verge of breakup but not shown!
& where's some Funk rythm playing & general Rythm playing in the demo with the pedal bypass them played with the pedal on.
This is $700.00 AU, it needs to be capable of playing everything that it is based around being a Marshall JTM45 type pedal!
szukalski
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Not sure how obscure it is, unless your scope is limited to US/USSR. I think it’s a beautiful aircraft, very practical. How else do you get two massive engines inside an airframe for a plane designed to climb as fast as possible to meet incoming bombers? The engineering there is definitely interesting.
I think that the Space Charged v2 from Crazy Tube Circuits is a similar alternative priced at half of this pedal. I own this pedal and it’s also runs at starved plate voltage. The SC2 boost is also gain and volume on top of the normal channel, sadly not an independent boost because of this.
You can buy Kingsley tube pedals for a similar amount as the Thorpy which are using high voltage internally. I personally think this pedal is way overpriced and it won’t give you the touch.
darwin999
Well-known member
Hmm, again I don't understand the concern on the price of the original here. There's no shortage of overpriced OEM stompboxes. Nobody here pans the original Klons out there for being $$$$, if they like it we just build their own. Right?
We don't care how expensive the Thorpy is, we're not arguing for buying *it* - we're asking that @Robert make the PCB so we can make our own box (for much less). And if you don't like it, fine, you have every right not to like it - so don't build it.
We don't care how expensive the Thorpy is, we're not arguing for buying *it* - we're asking that @Robert make the PCB so we can make our own box (for much less). And if you don't like it, fine, you have every right not to like it - so don't build it.
The schematic for the Klon was released free on the web & don't put the Thorpy Fx in the same vein!
I don't know if you have noticed but there isn't 1 tube based PCB available on the PedalPCB website.
Their are plenty of Tube based pedals out there but there is a minority that choose to play them.
A lot of them are starved plate & a lot of them are just a Gimmick, the tube doesn't really do a lot!
Unless the Thorpy one comes along at half the R.R.P price & there are at least 50 members that want it.
I'll be surprised if it happens anytime soon????
Not being negative, just logical!
Robert
Reverse Engineer
I certainly wouldn't call it conclusive, but if it were a true high-voltage design I'd expect there to be some bragging about that in the marketing... That's the sort of thing that sells this type of pedal.
And at least one warning somewhere about not opening up the pedal due to hazardous voltages.
This is almost certainly a Tube Driver and Boost in one.
With that said, I'm not saying that has to be a bad thing... It could still sound great. Just because it has a tube (or high voltage) doesn't mean it's going to sound good, and the absence of either doesn't mean it wont.
darwin999
Well-known member
The Thorpy was just released, and anyway exceptionally few vendors release their circuit schematics any more.
That's why people spend real effort tracing circuits.
And I have noticed this on PPCB's website:
Look, if you don't want it, don't ask for it.
It's fine that we all have different tastes, that's a GOOD thing for music overall.
But we shouldn't enforce our tastes on others.
I don't sh*t all over your requests, so please return the favor here.
OK?
Take a Chill pill Pal, I was stating an actual fact that there is not a PedalPCB PCB available here for Tube Based Pedals.
They are in a minority group, Vigilante398 has stated he is not interested & that's his foray.
Drayve85 requested it , you just responded just like everyone else who has made their thoughts & opinions on it on it!
Have A Good Day!
They are in a minority group, Vigilante398 has stated he is not interested & that's his foray.
Drayve85 requested it , you just responded just like everyone else who has made their thoughts & opinions on it on it!
Have A Good Day!
I’d likely build one if it ever happened- imThis is Chris Bucks new signature pedal, AND it has a valve in it. Would be cool to have one of these in the PedalPCB arsenal! I know there are valve pedals on here……but this one’s new!. And, I think it’s a lil different.
More of an amp guy so not awfully big into tube pedals— but this or a Tube Driver would be a really cool addition- if for no other reason than to say I did build one!
hmm I did touch the wrong end of a fuse on a 3phase leg once… that sucked. Got bit from a discharging cap in an amp once- more annoying than bad.So you're saying @Robert could do better - probably a lot better - right? WE AGREE, that's what we're requesting!!!
I'm confused for some of the negative comments here, I'd kill for anything remotely close to Chris's sound on this video - and I'm an old guy who grew up on Harrison, Clapton, etc. After a little reading, I'm not surprised that Steve Winwood helped Chris Buck's band get started after hearing them at a recital.
Chris Buck's Signature ThorpyFX Electric Lighting Plexi Style Tube Preamp suitably delivers exquisite tube tones alongside superior dynamics
First hand review of the Signature Chris Buck ThorpyFX Electric Lightning Plexi-style Tube Preamp
Also, many people on this forum build their own tube amps, which use even higher voltages and much higher (thus more lethal) currents. Hey, from my past research life, I'm a longtime member of the Kilovolt Klub*. I'm still game for this one.
And I believe @Drayve85, @Haz + others here agree.
* Kilovolt Klub members have *accidentally* touched a voltage source greater than 1kV, and survived. And we're talking real gear that can source real current, so running across a carpet on a winter's day doesn't count. Unsurprising, a fair fraction of experimental scientists are members...
Then there is the time I almost hipot myself.
But I think the best was Meggering my left moob!
Maybe it’s the lead solder fumes, but if I was dropping $700 for something that sounded like a JTM45, it would be the parts to build a proper JTM45!
I agree it’s a niche market, and the only desire I have for one is really more for novelty value (would be cool to do a Tube Driver to say I did… but if I don’t I’m not going to complain). Would I like to do one, yes, but there are also non-tube pedals I’d be more interested in building first!
vigilante398
Authorized Vendor
It's not that I'm not interested, I think it's a neat looking pedal and Thorpy does cool stuff, I just don't sleep very much as is and certainly don't need any more projects on my plate. I'm always around and will happily talk about tubes all day, but it's Robert's turn to do a tube project
vigilante398
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bluedmc777
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That’s alot of cash. Honestly I’d be more interested in Tubesteaders pedal such as the EggNog or Kingsley designs. Drunk Beavers Ternopil Pentode Preamp seems interesting as well and is almost a quarter of the price.
jesuscrisp
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Guts here
bluedmc777
Active member
I would’ve went with the JJE83CC personally but they’re a little bit higher I believe
vigilante398
Authorized Vendor
My understanding is that the ECC83 and the E83CC are the same tube with the same basic specs but that the E83CC go through a stricter screening process for low noise. It carries a significant upcharge that adds up when you're building hundreds/thousands of something. I use the ECC83S in my "commercial" builds.
bluedmc777
Active member
Maybe so…that’s weird but it may because I always buy pre-screened tubes. Maybe the ECC83 I a/b it with had been used more because the E83CC provided more “oomph” when compared. The ECC83MG and ECC803S are both certainly worth looking to. The ecc83mg just may be the hidden gem in all of them. I bought a high gain version of it lol.
I like the ecc83s in brighter amps though.
I like the ecc83s in brighter amps though.
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