Upcoming EQD / Boris collaboration pedal

[manfesto]

They’ve teased it twice this week, but the second tease has a split second where you can kinda sorta see the schematic

Obviously it isn't necessarily the schematic for the pedal and could just be a gag, but if it isn’t, that look like a birds-eye-view of another Big Muff variant to anyone else?

 

[benny_profane]

 

[manfesto]

Is the Sustainar a BM variant that Boris is associated with? Haven’t heard of it before but that’s not surprising given how many there are out there

 

[mdc]

The elk is the one they're known for, yeah. A couple of other folks have cloned it as well. Scant differences aside from the tone stack, which has a slightly weird response.

 

[manfesto]

The elk is the one they're known for, yeah. A couple of other folks have cloned it as well. Scant differences aside from the tone stack, which has a slightly weird response.

Well if that’s the case probably won’t even need to add it to the wish list! Just build a Muffin with the right values, eBay up the right PNP transistors, EDIT - and use an inverter charge pump footswitch board

 

[mnemonic]

Don’t forget to sand off the part numbers for extra mojo

 

[mdc]

Well if that’s the case probably won’t even need to add it to the wish list! Just build a Muffin with the right values, eBay up the right PNP transistors, EDIT - and use an inverter charge pump footswitch board

Who knows, they may do something extra with it—EQD make excellent stuff, and their tweaks to old circuits are generally sensible and sound great.

Also, in my experience (and those with ears of crystal may argue) the transistor selection for big muffs is pretty non-crucial. There's so much gain and inter-stage EQ happening that tweaking the tone control values probably has the biggest effect of any mod on those things.

I wouldn't worry about the PNP/NPN thing, just build an NPN version and match the miller caps and tone section to the Elk and it should sound pretty much the same. At least as similar as any two vintage ones sound to each other.

 

[manfesto]

Who knows, they may do something extra with it—EQD make excellent stuff, and their tweaks to old circuits are generally sensible and sound great.

If they tweak it then totally agreed, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if they go the route of their Park Fuzz, or the Rat chunk of the Life Pedal, and make accuracy of the circuit the selling point

Also, in my experience (and those with ears of crystal may argue) the transistor selection for big muffs is pretty non-crucial. There's so much gain and inter-stage EQ happening that tweaking the tone control values probably has the biggest effect of any mod on those things.

I wouldn't worry about the PNP/NPN thing, just build an NPN version and match the miller caps and tone section to the Elk and it should sound pretty much the same. At least as similar as any two vintage ones sound to each other.

But then there’s no mojoooooooooooo

 

[Chuck D. Bones]

Special tone stack for to make sound of long-distance fone call, comrade.

 

[almondcity]

I'm very hyped for this

 

[benny_profane]

get ready for the troubleshooting threads.

 

[Coda]

Boneyard Edition: The Natasha…

 

[Chuck D. Bones]

I got the inside scoop. Here's the prototype. It's a PNP Si BMP with a Tone Shift switch. Mojo parts like Tropical Fish caps, CC resistors & 1N3604 diodes.




No, wait. That's a BMP Triangle I built around 1977. Transistors are 2N5087. Wife was cleaning out some of my shit and found it just now. Guess I should dust it off, install pots & jacks, see if it still works after 40+ years.

 

[Chuck D. Bones]

Found another one!!! This one is NPN. Judging by the blue perf and the mix of CC & CF resistors, I built it in the early 80's. Apparently I had quite the Big Muff fetish back then. Gotta ditch those green disk ceramic caps. Output on the left side, input in the right. The 5th transistor on the far right is a JFET input buffer. Ribbon cable goes to the pots.

 

[jeffwhitfield]

EQD Placebo. Doesn’t actually do anything…but makes you think that it does through subliminal means.

 

[almondcity]

 

[wintercept]

Didn’t make the connection at first but my first thought on the first note he played was “great another big muff”

The Elk’s biggest difference is the tone stack, and I don’t really hear anything that can’t be had from most other muffs.

 

[manfesto]

NGL I’ll probably pick one up because I love the graphic (and the color purple) and for $150 I think it’s a pretty fair price (soft-switching and build quality the EHX Nanos can’t match, while not being another $200 Muff-with-an-extra-knob).

(And obviously I’ll build one once it’s traced and the half-dozen component changes get sorted)

The tone knob’s got a much heavier tilt than I’m used to hearing on Muffs (reminds me of when I built the Fuzz War MkI with a 680pF HPF cap and the top end of the sweep was just *awkwardly* nasal) but overall somewhere in the neighborhood of a Triangle Muff, sounds like. Maybe a touch more hair and grit at full tilt?

 

[Coda]

I’m not too excited about this pedal…I can build my own version (better too?). I will say that all of the teasing has lead me into a big Boris kick…

 

[Nostradoomus]

I love most of their material but this one is the most fun