What's on the workbench?
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chris.knudson
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Hmm...
Let's address these points one at a time...
1. White washer -- hater's gonna hate, and @eh là bas ma isn't here to defend himself
2. Side jacks - all of the original pedals that we love had side jacks -- think about it -- none of the legendary pedals we grew up with had top jacks -- not even the Boss pedals that were on all of our boards.
3. Sticker instead of decal -- c'mon, there's a thread on here called "Show off Your Stickers - Stickers wanted!" It doesn't say "Show off your decals - decals wanted" -- just saying....
4. Anti-rotation washer on the outside of toggle switch -- OK, I'll give you that one.
5. Presence label like 2 inches away from toggle - C'mon, we all know graphics is hard. It's not about the execution, it's about the effort...
6. Font - Nothing says talent booster more than that font. I mean, that takes talent to a whole n'other level.
7. Outie power jack -- some of us have innies, some of us have outies -- let's not judge.
Guilherme Collateral
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I have to strongly disagree with point 2... Fuzz Face, Big Muff, ProCo Rat, all have jacks on top
chris.knudson
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Ok, so there's some notable exceptions, but as a kid in the 80s, I didn't have access to any of those...
chris.knudson
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And I'm not sure that's true...
Those look like side jacks to me...
Those look like side jacks to me...
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That's from after EHX got sober.
chris.knudson
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Ok, so the Fuzz Face was a round pedal, so you can argue whether or not it had top-mount jacks, but I could argue if it even had a top. The EHX Big Muff clearly had both, and the Rat was the odd ball with top mount jacks. Point is that we all (at least those of a certain age) grew up with side jacks.
Robert
Reverse Engineer
Disclaimer: These are mostly just my opinions, which means you should take them as COLD HARD FACTS.
1) Ain't nothin wrong with white washers. There are designs where they fit cosmetically, just like anything else.
2) I'm not a fan of side jacks but sometimes I wish I was.... it'd sure make layouts easier and would make signal flow more efficient by reducing the long runs of wire running up to the jacks.
3) I'm pretty sure all of the early Wampler pedals used labels. After all, Brian started off as a forum DIY'er like many others.
4) Over on the MLP forums we used to call those "thumb-cutters".
I'd rather see the anti-rotation washer than the star washer on the footswitch.... or "barefoot buttons"...
6) No explanation necessary
7) I sure do appreciate outie jacks when it comes time to pull one out of the enclosure... Especially when builders insist on wrapping the wire through the lugs before soldering.
1) Ain't nothin wrong with white washers. There are designs where they fit cosmetically, just like anything else.
2) I'm not a fan of side jacks but sometimes I wish I was.... it'd sure make layouts easier and would make signal flow more efficient by reducing the long runs of wire running up to the jacks.
3) I'm pretty sure all of the early Wampler pedals used labels. After all, Brian started off as a forum DIY'er like many others.
4) Over on the MLP forums we used to call those "thumb-cutters".
I'd rather see the anti-rotation washer than the star washer on the footswitch.... or "barefoot buttons"...
6) No explanation necessary
7) I sure do appreciate outie jacks when it comes time to pull one out of the enclosure... Especially when builders insist on wrapping the wire through the lugs before soldering.
Ugh, clearly whoever built that pedal isn’t going anywhere in this business
(Sidebar I’m team outie Jack til the day I die)
chris.knudson
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Which everyone does... And I'm only saying that because I totally agree
However...
Explanation might be necessary...
chris.knudson
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But it says Big Muff right on the box???
Robert
Reverse Engineer
I'm going to have to agree with Monk on this one....
A 'Muff is only a 'Muff if it's in a big oversized bent steel enclosure with a crappy 1/8" headphone power jack.
I know this is going to be a very unpopular statement.... but a real 'Muff ain't green either. There I said it.
A 'Muff is only a 'Muff if it's in a big oversized bent steel enclosure with a crappy 1/8" headphone power jack.
I know this is going to be a very unpopular statement.... but a real 'Muff ain't green either. There I said it.
chris.knudson
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You can say what you will Robert, but I can read. The box says Big Muff. It even has the symbol and everything, and most importantly it has the side jacks. I'm not stupid. Plus I know what a real muff is. I am experienced. I've seen them before.I'm going to have to agree with Monk on this one....
A 'Muff is only a 'Muff if it's in a big oversized bent steel enclosure with a crappy 1/8" headphone power jack.
I know this is going to be a very unpopular statement.... but a real 'Muff ain't green either. There I said it.
benny_profane
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My little pony?
bean
Legume Liaison
Fight me.
Fix your board before you come smashing this place up.
Then come smash this place up.
But this has to be settled American Gladiator style.
chris.knudson
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White washers shouldn't be fighting words. In fact, the white washer should be the peace symbol of the pedal building community -- kind of like the olive branch or the hemorrhoid ring that we all must sit on eventually.
Jacks are on the side because it's for bass players. They had to keep it simple for them because there's already more than 4 of something.
+ There's only 2-3 pedals on their board anyway.
(JK)
chris.knudson
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Ok, I'm a bass player, but I do respect every inch of my pedal board. Not saying that I'm not a fan of top mounted jacks, but I'm also not critical of those who use side jacks either.
Robert
Reverse Engineer
Oh I've been waiting for this day, you think I've forgotten the poopy pants episode of 2018?!
This is going to be just like that time Musk and Zuckerberg duked it out.
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