Tayda UV Printing

[neiltheseal]

Do you select everything in your layer before applying the swatch ? In scribus that is what I need to do.
One of your design is really close, but the line have not the correct swatch applied.
I also thing some strokes are still not correct
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obviously a bug typo ....... not knod .... kind of double layer

Thanks for this. It is slowly making sense to me. I'm just paranoid as the last order I sent to tadya somehow was not in rdg white and ended up sorta grey instead. I know I was supposed to convert to rdg white but it got lost along the way.

Thanks for the support.

 

[neiltheseal]

Here's your file with RDG White applied.

Thanks so much for this. This is a great help.

 

[neiltheseal]

RDG Gloss is applied correctly, but RDG White is not.

I've reviewed your design, and considering you're just using white (and varnish), you have way too many shapes for the "Univibe" logo. You have 3 different layers there, one on top of the other. It looks like it was made for colors, but was all colored white in this case. To illustrate what I'm saying, I've colored them in 3 different colors, red, green and blue. The last one is, for some reason, put into a group (that's not needed). The same is happening in the varnish layer. Maybe you want to simplify that?

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@Nic has also pointed you some of these issues.

One word of advice: while printers have no problems with strokes, nitpicky printers like Tayda may have problems with them. I suggest you convert your strokes to fills. To do that, select elements with strokes (you can do that with the menu Select > Select Same > Stroke Color and convert the strokes to shapes with the menu Layer > Expand Stroke. In that way, all elements will be fills. Then you can select all with Select > Select Same > Fill Color, and change the elements all at once. This select tools is handy if you want to change the fill of the shapes all at once to apply the RDG White swatch.

Thanks. I'm still learning this, and I suppose what looks good on inkscape won't necessarily come out well on print.

I'll have a look at making the strokes, fills instead.

By the way, do you mean that rdg white was not applied properly, or it was not applied at all?

 

[Nic]

If it looks good in inkscape and everything is vectorized, it should look good once printed. A good way to know is to print the pdf yourself. I sometimes create a print test of the color layer only to see if anything loses quality.
Really fine lines, especially if used in text may get blurry, otherwise the vector images adapts well.

 

[damianvila]

By the way, do you mean that rdg white was not applied properly, or it was not applied at all?

It was not applied at all. Not in the fills or the strokes. It was in CMYK. But the RDG Gloss was applied correctly.

To check if your fill or stroke has the correct swatch (RDG White or DRG Gloss in this case) applied, check the post I made with a few directions for Affinity: https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/tayda-uv-printing.4245/page-63#post-220818

I think that if you simplify the Univibe logo and apply the DRG White correctly, it will print without problems. Converting the strokes to fill is just a recommendation (in the same way that converting fonts to shapes is a good habit), but I don't think it's strictly necessary. Just keep it in mind for the future, as long as you don't have problems doing it (if you find it too confusing, don't worry about it).

 

[neiltheseal]

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It was not applied at all. Not in the fills or the strokes. It was in CMYK. But the RDG Gloss was applied correctly.

To check if your fill or stroke has the correct swatch (RDG White or DRG Gloss in this case) applied, check the post I made with a few directions for Affinity: https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/tayda-uv-printing.4245/page-63#post-220818

I think that if you simplify the Univibe logo and apply the DRG White correctly, it will print without problems. Converting the strokes to fill is just a recommendation (in the same way that converting fonts to shapes is a good habit), but I don't think it's strictly necessary. Just keep it in mind for the future, as long as you don't have problems doing it (if you find it too confusing, don't worry about it).

Thanks for you help with this. I read your post and now I know where to look for what color is applied.

Do you mind telling me what I may be doing wrong here? I seem to be having trouble applying RDG white but have no issue applying gloss.

I took a few screenshots. When I select rdg white I end up with () as the color. But when I select rdg gloss the color appears as (rdg_gloss) which seems fine. Is there a trick to adding rdg white other than just selecting the layer/component and clicking it?

Sorry for being so needy!

 

[damianvila]

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Thanks for you help with this. I read your post and now I know where to look for what color is applied.

Do you mind telling me what I may be doing wrong here? I seem to be having trouble applying RDG white but have no issue applying gloss.

I took a few screenshots. When I select rdg white I end up with () as the color. But when I select rdg gloss the color appears as (rdg_gloss) which seems fine. Is there a trick to adding rdg white other than just selecting the layer/component and clicking it?

Sorry for being so needy!

I have no idea why it's not applying the color. Maybe it's because you're trying to apply the color to a group of shapes, and some have fill color while others don't, and if fails. I really have no clue why it's not responding as intended.

Do this: First of all, hide the other groups (GLOSS and COLOR) and leave only the WHITE group visible. Then open the WHITE group (by clicking on the down arrow) to see the individual shapes. Select one of the shapes. If the shape only has a fill color, select the other shapes by choosing Select > Select Same > Fill Color from the menu. Apply the RDG WHITE spot color to the fill color. Then look for a shape that has a stroke, and do the same for the stroke color (Select > Select Same > Stroke Color). Now, select any shape at random, and check if the spot color is applied correctly.

In reality, the visibility of the group shouldn't be a problem, and applying a color to a fill or stroke in a group should apply it to all the elements in that group. I just checked in my machine, and it shouldn't make any difference. But who knows?

Let me know if it works.

 

[Silver Blues]

Did you guys see this?

 

[Bricksnbeatles]

Did you guys see this?

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Side printing was one of the things holding me back from a particular project I had in mind. This is huge news! Lid drilling is also super welcome!
Now if only they’d offer pearlescent pastel colors (pearlescent lavender, baby blue, sea foam green, etc)

 

[giovanni]

Side printing was one of the things holding me back from a particular project I had in mind. This is huge news! Lid drilling is also super welcome!
Now if only they’d offer pearlescent pastel colors (pearlescent lavender, baby blue, sea foam green, etc)

I like your vision man.

 

[fydo]

Side printing! So exciting. There doesn't seem to be any updated documentation about how to do it. I only see an additional option to pick what side you're printing on when submitting the UV template.
I would guess this means we need to separately submit each side as its own file? Getting things to line up will be tricky

 

[Fama]

Lid printing and drilling might be cool, you could do an upside down pedal now (so the lid is the top of the pedal, and the screws add to the aesthetic. Maybe with the "plain aluminum with gloss" finish, whatever the real name was.

 

[neiltheseal]

I have no idea why it's not applying the color. Maybe it's because you're trying to apply the color to a group of shapes, and some have fill color while others don't, and if fails. I really have no clue why it's not responding as intended.

Do this: First of all, hide the other groups (GLOSS and COLOR) and leave only the WHITE group visible. Then open the WHITE group (by clicking on the down arrow) to see the individual shapes. Select one of the shapes. If the shape only has a fill color, select the other shapes by choosing Select > Select Same > Fill Color from the menu. Apply the RDG WHITE spot color to the fill color. Then look for a shape that has a stroke, and do the same for the stroke color (Select > Select Same > Stroke Color). Now, select any shape at random, and check if the spot color is applied correctly.

In reality, the visibility of the group shouldn't be a problem, and applying a color to a fill or stroke in a group should apply it to all the elements in that group. I just checked in my machine, and it shouldn't make any difference. But who knows?

Let me know if it works.

No it didn't work sorry. The white layer is just 2 boxes and some text. When I select each shape individuallyI still can't make it rdg white.

Can you tell me what your process is? This is what I have been doing:

• Click on the white layer to show shapes
• Click on a shape
• Click "swatches"
• Select "rdg_white"
• And that should be it.

 

[neiltheseal]

I have no idea why it's not applying the color. Maybe it's because you're trying to apply the color to a group of shapes, and some have fill color while others don't, and if fails. I really have no clue why it's not responding as intended.

Do this: First of all, hide the other groups (GLOSS and COLOR) and leave only the WHITE group visible. Then open the WHITE group (by clicking on the down arrow) to see the individual shapes. Select one of the shapes. If the shape only has a fill color, select the other shapes by choosing Select > Select Same > Fill Color from the menu. Apply the RDG WHITE spot color to the fill color. Then look for a shape that has a stroke, and do the same for the stroke color (Select > Select Same > Stroke Color). Now, select any shape at random, and check if the spot color is applied correctly.

In reality, the visibility of the group shouldn't be a problem, and applying a color to a fill or stroke in a group should apply it to all the elements in that group. I just checked in my machine, and it shouldn't make any difference. But who knows?

Let me know if it works.

Actually it may be an issue with the swatch pallette I used. I tried a different one and seem to be having success.

Although the issue now is i don't have an option for RDG_WHITE but a variety of other colours. I have selected RVW-BK01A. That looks like white. WIll that work with the Tayda UV?

 

[damianvila]

Actually it may be an issue with the swatch pallette I used. I tried a different one and seem to be having success.

Although the issue now is i don't have an option for RDG_WHITE but a variety of other colours. I have selected RVW-BK01A. That looks like white. WIll that work with the Tayda UV?

If Tayda expects the spot color with that specific name, it won’t work.

Before making it work, in my case, I deleted all related palettes from Designer, as I had similar problems as yours. Finally, with no custom palette in the program, I generated the palette that I’m using and that’s working consistently for me. The one from Pachyderm also works (I checked).

The only explanation that I have for this is that, if you have more than one palette for RDG White, and one of them doesn’t work, none will work. I just remembered that this happened to me before. My solution was that: get rid of all of them, and make a new one.

What you’re doing to apply the color is correct. If everything is ok, you shouldn’t have any problems.

 

[neiltheseal]

If Tayda expects the spot color with that specific name, it won’t work.

Before making it work, in my case, I deleted all related palettes from Designer, as I had similar problems as yours. Finally, with no custom palette in the program, I generated the palette that I’m using and that’s working consistently for me. The one from Pachyderm also works (I checked).

The only explanation that I have for this is that, if you have more than one palette for RDG White, and one of them doesn’t work, none will work. I just remembered that this happened to me before. My solution was that: get rid of all of them, and make a new one.

What you’re doing to apply the color is correct. If everything is ok, you shouldn’t have any problems.

Thanks for your help. I deleted the swatches and re imported the pachyderm ones. Didn't work immediately but it works now!

Can I ask a couple of other questions. Does it matter what order the layers are in for the UV printing? I have gloss at the top, then white, then colour. Is this right?

Also when choosing colours, do I need a specific swatch for that? For my colour layer I'm just using a clour from inkscape. But I think I remember reading somewhere that I need to do something else.

 

[giovanni]

Thanks for your help. I deleted the swatches and re imported the pachyderm ones. Didn't work immediately but it works now!

Can I ask a couple of other questions. Does it matter what order the layers are in for the UV printing? I have gloss at the top, then white, then colour. Is this right?

Also when choosing colours, do I need a specific swatch for that? For my colour layer I'm just using a clour from inkscape. But I think I remember reading somewhere that I need to do something else.

I think the color layer doesn’t need a special watch. The layer ordering should not matter because they always do white, then color then gloss but others can correct me. I would also recommend using affinity designer for everything if you’re already using it for the swatches (I’ve been through this and Inkscape is more of a pain than it’s worth).

 

[neiltheseal]

I think the color layer doesn’t need a special watch. The layer ordering should not matter because they always do white, then color then gloss but others can correct me. I would also recommend using affinity designer for everything if you’re already using it for the swatches (I’ve been through this and Inkscape is more of a pain than it’s worth).

Thanks for your reply.

I will probably move to Affinity, but I'm on a free trial at the moment. I just wanted to make sure it did what I wanted it to do before paying. As it seems to work I will probably buy it and learn how it works.

 

[KR Sound]

Thanks for your help. I deleted the swatches and re imported the pachyderm ones. Didn't work immediately but it works now!

Can I ask a couple of other questions. Does it matter what order the layers are in for the UV printing? I have gloss at the top, then white, then colour. Is this right?

Also when choosing colours, do I need a specific swatch for that? For my colour layer I'm just using a clour from inkscape. But I think I remember reading somewhere that I need to do something else.

Order doesn’t matter- what does is that they are visible and are named correctly. As for your colors, just make sure it’s in CMYK and you’re good to go.

 

[neiltheseal]

Order doesn’t matter- what does is that they are visible and are named correctly. As for your colors, just make sure it’s in CMYK and you’re good to go.

Thanks.

To make sure the colours are in CMYK, when I export to pdf do I change the "color space" to CMYK?