AI is annoying

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spi

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While chatgpt and other AI chats seem impressive, they're also so annoying. You can't really count on them for accurate information, and I can't tell the number of times it told me something that was outright wrong.

I was trying to google some information and couldn't find it. So I asked ChatGPT, and it told me the answer as if it was definitive (with a link). But the link didn't have the answer, so I asked a follow up question:
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With AI, don't trust and always verify.
 
I think asking questions and any facts from AI is the single worst thing you could ask AI (well, possibly calculations I guess, at least AI's used to suck at those too). It's surprisingly useful as a tool to help with coding (not to replace coders really, you can't get full blown programs out of them, but helpful for generating code snippets to save time).

Edit: I guess coding/IT related questions are also sort of included in "asking questions", but with those you usually can verify if it works immediately or not, so you don't have to trust AI, you can check it - but it's always still good to understand what it's doing and why.
 
Academia is losing its collective shit over AI. Every goddamned publisher wants to incorporate it into their products. Every conference is like 50% AI-focused and the presenters seem to be entirely credulous of the tech-bro hype. The administration at my university is so collectively horny for the potential to reduce labor costs they're frothing to get at it.

I've played around with it and found I spent as much time correcting and reviewing the output as I would have if I had just done it myself. I'm not convinced it's anywhere near the point where it's going to revolutionize communication or knowledge synthesis. I'm curious to see what happens as AI products remain lackluster and VC money starts to dry up.
 
joeyd said:
Academia is losing its collective shit over AI. Every goddamned publisher wants to incorporate it into their products. Every conference is like 50% AI-focused and the presenters seem to be entirely credulous of the tech-bro hype. The administration at my university is so collectively horny for the potential to reduce labor costs they're frothing to get at it.

I've played around with it and found I spent as much time correcting and reviewing the output as I would have if I had just done it myself. I'm not convinced it's anywhere near the point where it's going to revolutionize communication or knowledge synthesis. I'm curious to see what happens as AI products remain lackluster and VC money starts to dry up.
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The bubble will burst!!! I work with AI every day (as a software engineer) and I can confirm that the hype is way overinflated IMO.
 
It’s as dumb as the cloud hype. We got a CTO who preached cloud over everything and soon after every department was forced to put new systems into the cloud and start a poc for every cloud operator we noticed that it is not the cheapest way for everything and security is a bitch for some systems. AI will not take over world. At least for now. And it is just burning money to put it in each and everything. Another funny thing from last werk, we get workshops for Microsoft Copilot but no Copilot for our daily work. Someone did not think this through. It’s trendy, we need it but oh noooo it’s tied to costs.
 
I was going to say, it can write some fanny songs. Drop a few subjects into an AI and watch the hilarity. The picture ones are the absolute coolest.
 
I've seen it used successfully for marketing and add copy. Also, I was impressed when it recorded a zoom meeting and produced a meeting synopsis and a list of action items. That saved a lot of time.

But for anything science based it does exactly what the OP said..... it confidently tells you a wrong answer. My assumption is it pools the collective internet, which for a lot of science and medical stuff is full of misinformation.
 
Trying to use it for facts is a waste of time.

I get the most utility out it when I’m scratching the surface of concepts that are novel or new to me. Almost like a reverse dictionary. I describe what my idea is in my own words, and the response it generates can introduce concepts that I can then research and verify on my own.

I also use it every day at work so I can spend less time typing out code.

As mentioned, the hype is there. I got pulled onto an AI project at work. But I gotta give them credit. Our data scientists design and train our own in-house LLMs. Chat GPT is used as a fallback to further verify results. For example, if the confidence rating on a result is below a certain percent, it calls out to chat GPT for checking false-positives, false-negatives, false false positives, etc… It’s wild. But I don’t build that part. I’m more like a digital plumber. I build all the backend software required to feed the data scientists tons of real-time data, fast.

Uh, anyway… it’s overhyped, it’s not good at the tasks the average person expects, it doesn’t work the way people assume. But if you leverage its strengths and make it do boring things that take humans a long time to do, you can use it to make rain a metric shit-ton of money. For now.

Trying to use it to generate art is nuts to me. It’s like a party trick. AI has no intent, so how could it express anything meaningful in a language for expressing human emotion (music)?

Have AI do all the dull tasks so humans can make the art.
 
jcpst said:
Trying to use it to generate art is nuts to me. It’s like a party trick. AI has no intent, so how could it express anything meaningful in a language for expressing human emotion (music)?

Have AI do all the dull tasks so humans can make the art.
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See, that's not how people with a lot of money see it.

They're like "hey, artists aren't so special. My five year old can do better art. Plus, artists are lazy. What's wrong with them? Why aren't they just working for me so I can scrape profit off the top of their labor?"

See, when everything in your life is about work and chasing an ever growing hunger for status and currency and never find self-fulfillment because you're an empty husk of a miserable human being, artists really piss you off. Cause they're like...just...making...stuff. And that stuff might not be *useful* or *profitable*! How *dare* they live such a life?

So, hey, let's just have AI make all the art. Cause then the artists will have no choice but to turn to labor. Labor from which they scrape excess value from.

Until AI can actually, like, take the place of labor. Cause labor is too expensive. Why can't we just have machines do the labor, so we don't have to pay the machines, and then like only the super rich and therefore super deserving can reap all the benefit?

In fact, why do i even have to do this from this planet? Why can't I just go off into space and like, just have the robots take care of everything for me? After all, blah blah bootstraps. Gumption. Stiff upper lip.
 
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I use it every day as a teacher. It cuts my admin time by a lot. It can give me feedback suggestions on students' work, design learning sequences, turn dot point notes into formal written reports, and write the text for presentations. I treat it like an over-eager-but-under-qualified personal assistant and I never believe anything it says without fact-checking. One of my favourite uses is getting it to generate test questions or learning tasks based on content that I've written myself. I've found it's very accurate with that.
 
I work in marketing with a bunch of guys who entered the workforce post covid…
The amount of AI generated rubbish they come up with is amazing - one of them has rhen got good at rewriting into normalish English … but at no point questioned “why would we even say this” …. It’s ok though because it’s not like it’s a generation that’s bad at taking any criticism or anything … honestly getting protective about something you’ve had a machine write for you :S
 
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