Anyone Else Diggin' the New "Fallout" Series on Amazon Prime?

PunchySunshine said:
Anything with Walton Goggins and I'm in.
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I'm about halfway through. He's definitely my favorite character—so far, but maybe it'll persist.

I'm interested in where the Brotherhood will end up. It's definitely taken a more religious (catholic school) vibe than was present. I also hope to see the reconciliation between coastal chapters. They're less nazi-like than FO4's portrayal at least. I always read their characterization as stoically vigilant, bordering on indolence.

I feel like Betty is posturing too much with the east coast dominance, since they're in Maryland. Oh well. The canon is not mine to write—never was. Just seems like a "we don't care about the west anymore" middle finger. We'll see. Again, I'm biased.
 
I'm loving it so far... I've played the games, and I think they've done a pretty good job capturing the essence so far (I'm also 2 episodes in). My son is also loving it, and he's probably played more Fallout 4 than I have...
 
ICTRock said:
fallout's heyday was during a time period I wasn't playing video games so I'm watching this with bare minimal backstory ... I like it, not as much as I'm liking Shogun but considering how little content is out there I feel a bit spoiled right now that even this much is watch-worthy
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I am eagerly awaiting next Tuesday so I can finish out Shogun. Really liking the 8 episodes I have watched so far.
 
jessenator said:
You have to understand that I'm terribly biased, though: I'm a big fan of 1, 2, and New Vegas, if that says anything…
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I am as well. Really enjoyed the stories and turn based combat. I remember the Coppertops reference as a very young adult and thinking it was the coolest thing ever. I wish Obsidian would have been on 3.

Caught the first episode last night. All kinds of fun stuff. Road warrior outfit wearing raiders using jet, power armor wearing Brotherhood, stimpaks, ghouls, etc....but something isn't jiving. The balance is off. At least when it comes to perceived entertainment value. It feels a little forced and one of my selfish favorite things about the fallout world is the character you get to create to interact with the wasteland. Without that element or at least a character that I like and care about, the sophomoric humor, sex and violence seems out of whack. Only on episode one, though.

That reminds me, I have a fallout graphic emmereezafratzits around here somewhere and I think Bones just did a breadboard post. Mod time!!
 
ianmarks said:
Caught the first episode last night.
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I'm with you. I think Fallout 3 was a "we need to sell this as wide as we can. And most people know us [Bethesda] for tES, so let's adopt some of that." I think, much as I love FNV, something like Van Buren might not have had the reach. The average dudebro love blowing shit up, so there's that, too. I'll admit though, it does appeal to the "goopy goblin brain" NakeyJakey talks about.

I think Buffy is going all-out with this show, since we're at least a decade out from a new Fallout game title (tES VI and turd polishing Starfield is priority, and they're losing what good folks they had). I'm getting the vibe of 3 (moreso than 4) with it all. SATURATE and get a larger, unfamiliar audience to "get it." Yeah, like you said, there's dark humor, there's sex and violence, some good characters, and the showrunners have a stellar track record. They needed Avellone (and Gonzales)…

I have to confess I'm not a fan of Pagliorulo's approach (is he attached to the show? IDK, but he created the F3 vibe—and Starfield's…), even before the internet shitstorm of criticisms and targeted abuse hurling. A number of reviewers have it out for him. Some of them I've watched, and some of them are just too bitter for me, my preferences in titles in the series aside. By all accounts—even Tim Cain's—he's a good dude. I'm just not a fan of the shotgun/anecdotal approach. I want choice and consequences. I want motivations that make sense. If there are arcs, I want them to be earned.

I mean, I get the "old man yells at cloud" sort of reputation some of us have, but I think it's genuinely the approach to a wider involvement in, and exploration/presentation of diegetic events in a world. To co-opt other reviewer voices: "it [should be] a world that existed before you, and will exist after you"—you, the PC, are merely a catalyst, not a diety.

Betty's approach—much like with tES—is to make you lord supreme of every faction, guild, and society in their worlds—no gate-keeping, no hard failure (well, Oblivion had it…); the BoS are the exception in F4, because they needed to shoehorn Maxson as a concept in with sheer brute force. It's too adulatory for my taste. I like involvement, but I want to be my own character (don't get me started on a voiced protagonist…). If you want to make The Last of Us, make it.

The sad reality is that the FNV dream team isn't there anymore… as much as I commend (and kinda adore) Josh Sawyer, he's the director, the glue that brought those disparate voices together and made it work—some say it barely held on during production, and the departure of Gonzales and Avellone… man those guys really killed it with the world they built!

sigh I didn't say much about the show, heh.

It's a different medium, it's serial "television," so it's gotta be hard-wired by design. The part I worry about (still haven't watched 4…life is getting in the way), is that they stated it is canon. It's not elseworlds/alt-universe. They're baking in the state set for the next game title (or just continuing the series it sounds like…). I just don't want them pissing on the ashes of where the (game) series started just because Beth's bladder is full.

Hopefully the rumormill around Micrsoft's top-down intervening plays out and it means positive changes, but I won't hold my breath.

ianmarks said:
That reminds me, I have a fallout graphic emmereezafratzits around here somewhere and I think Bones just did a breadboard post. Mod time!!
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Nice. Let me know how it turns out.
 
Gotta say, I was really pleasantly surprised. The Fallout lore/canon has changed over the years, so I had my expectations adjusted accordingly. The show felt to me like the kind of story you'd expect to find in a really well-done fan-made expansion.

All things considered, it was way more fun than Fallout 76! 😂🤣😂🤣

And yeah, Walton Goggins has become one of my favorite slightly obscure actors. I'm really hoping for some more Baby Billy!
 
I know Microsoft has some of the games for $2-$10 right now and Amazon has 76 for free. I always wanted to play Fallout 3 but didn't. Watched all the episodes, now gotta play some games!
 
I tried to play Fallout 76 yesterday and it made me nauseous. I don’t remember ever feeling that way when playing through Fallout 4. That game was great!

The wife and I both enjoyed the show, we just wrapped it up last night. Casting was well done and Walton Goggins absolutely nailed his role.
 
PunchySunshine said:
Anything with Walton Goggins and I'm in.
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This.

Anything with Uncle Baby Billy in it is good.

I haven’t played since the first fallout back in 98-99(?) but I was in once the subtle cousin loving jokes were tossed around. Odd ball humor at the face of catastrophe is right up my alley.

What is everyones choice for THE Fallout game to play?
 
jjjimi84 said:
What is everyones choice for THE Fallout game to play?
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I don't know if I've telegraphed it hard enough :p I'm a New Vegas fanboy. I have friends who can't get beyond the Oblivion-era graphics, but despite its age, for me it's the world it builds and the cohesion—the writing. It's a world that existed before you, and it'll exist after you, to co-opt a game reviewer's words.


Finally finished the first season of the show. Spoilerific ranting below:


I hope they include a satisfying wrapper to the events after the first and second battles for Hoover Dam where NCR, Caesar's Legion, and House face off culminating in 2281: was it a stalemate? did the NCR beat the Legion at least, but lose New Vegas? New Vegas is still standing. The part where you see "Shady Sands: the First Capitol of the NCR", does that mean the NCR won completely and now New Vegas is the capitol? Unlikely, but the thought crossed my mind.

And I'm curious how Muldaver's preservation from 207x factors in. Was she secretly Vault-Tec all along? Was she Enclave?

I think we could safely say that the Legion didn't win the dam or Vegas, and possibly were driven from the region. Maybe House just won, and everyone else packed up their bats and went home. Part of the NCR's interest in the dam was power, which plays into the McGuffin of the TV series. It might be safe to say that the NCR at least lost a lot of internal strength and confidence had they lost the battle in one way or another.

Playing up the fan-theory-turned-reality that Vault-Tec are in fact the true villains, starting the Great War in 2077, was interesting. I'm curious to see where they go with that. House was definitely on his own wavelength, not broadcasting his own internal plans. In FNV canon, he actually is on the verge of buying Repconn (another board room entity), or actually does.

I want to say the deal goes down just before. You find Piers Isley's (negotiator on behalf of RobCo) corpse in the Repconn HQ outside of Vegas, having likely sealed the deal—the details from the in-game terminals elude me right now. That and then the stinger makes me think there's more involvement with House going forward. He was written so well, I think it would be a shame to diminish the character, so hopefully they handle it well. The late Rene Auberjonios is a tough act to top, too.

Big MT is another fun reference. It's not the most popular of the FNV DLCs, but I think it's fun and really enjoyable. I'm one who likes good story and dialogue/banter in these games (a loud criticism of Old World Blues DLC is that it's front-loaded with exposition, but I think the writing is hilarious). It seems they co-opted a bit of the kind of wacky biological experimentation from Big MT into Vault 4, but then again, they were similar kinds of situations: what happens when scientists are given a budget and told "DO SCIENCE" would make abominations

The dog… let's not forget about the dog.
 
I've been playing since Fallout 3 and really loved it. It was fun and dark and funny and tragic and absurd. Just like the game series. I'm looking forward to more seasons and, hopefully, spinoffs.
 
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