Duo-Phase LFO doesn't oscillate

catoblepasso

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So the kit requires x4 .47j63 capacitors, but I received only 2 with +2 extra .1j63 in the package.

So, hypotetically, I could still complete the build if I put the two extra .1j63s in the remaining two .47j63 slots. Do you think I can proceed, or is there a risk of creating a black-hole-universe-destroying explosion?

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At least you'll learn how to unsolder early on, it's a good skill to have.

I'm sure many of us have made this mistake (and not even close to a first build--it happens).
 
So the kit requires x4 .47j63 capacitors, but I received only 2 with +2 extra .1j63 in the package.

So, hypotetically, I could still complete the build if I put the two extra .1j63s in the remaining two .47j63 slots. Do you think I can proceed, or is there a risk of creating a black-hole-universe-destroying explosion?

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BTW it's a good idea to populate the board by component height. I would solder the IC sockets before the caps.
I usually go diodes, resistors, trimpots, sockets, ceramic caps, transistors, film caps, electrolytic caps.

Also, not to pry but your username makes me think we come from the same boot-shaped country.
 
Ok yesterday I managed to solder the whole thing without any problems before mounting the offboard stuff.

I was incredibly tired but also super excited to finish the build, so started working on it again after dinner. HUGE MISTAKE! I started piling one careless sloppy mistake after another. Like, I fried some plastic on the wires by clumsily handling the iron, I accidentally touched the plastic on the switch, but the most tragic mistake, and the one that probably costed me the build, was installing the toggles backwards... oh my, it took me forever to unsolder them, and I think I damaged the lugs and the PCB by leaving the solder on it for too long...

March on! I wired everything up and miracle, the lights turn on, but when plugged in, I can't hear anything. After a good night sleep, I noticed that the holes connecting the switches had little solder, so I managed to fix them and hold-and-behold I can hear something.... but no phaser.

The right LFO is practically fixed, while the left LFO works perfectly; so the side that passes the signal has the LFO that doesn't work, while the LFO that works doesn't pass the signal - this build trolled me.

I imagine it's impossible to find a solution without a probe, but I'll post some photos of the build anyway; maybe you can point me some mistakes that I cant see and learn from.

Maybe I bit off more than I could chew by overestimating my soldering skills and problem-solving abilities by choosing a build that was too difficult for my first pedal, but I think I learned a lot by fucking up a lot



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BTW it's a good idea to populate the board by component height. I would solder the IC sockets before the caps.
I usually go diodes, resistors, trimpots, sockets, ceramic caps, transistors, film caps, electrolytic caps.

Also, not to pry but your username makes me think we come from the same boot-shaped country.
that's a sound advice, thank you

Also, not to pry but your username makes me think we come from the same boot-shaped country.
You mean New Jersey?
 
I was persistent today and managed to fix the left phasor and now it works perfectly, it sounds magnificent aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Now I just have to figure out why the right side LFO doesn't move at all and stays fixed.
 
So after hours of clumsy debugging with the multimeter I think I found out what the problem is, but I have no solution.

There's an interruption in the oscillation signal between the DEPTH pot and resistors R37 and R38. Both resistors appear to be working as they both result connected to the circuit (checked with a multimeter and battery), but there's absolutely no contact between R37 and DEPTH, 0 signal. There's a signal between R38 and DEPTH, but it's still, so I think R37 is the culprit???

I tried desoldering and re-soldering both the DEPTH pot and the 37 resistor, but to no avail. I'm stuck.


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That seems logical. I'd try to reflow the solder and check again. Check to see if the 560ohm goes to ground. If it's still bad, maybe there's a bad trace. OR perhaps the depth pot went bad. At least you've narrowed it down to one spot.
 
That seems logical. I'd try to reflow the solder and check again. Check to see if the 560ohm goes to ground. If it's still bad, maybe there's a bad trace. OR perhaps the depth pot went bad. At least you've narrowed it down to one spot.
I think the pot is ok, the multimeter shows moving parameters and results connected to the pcb and other components. For example it shows a connection with R38. That connection should oscillated but it's not, however with R37 there's just 0
 
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