Pearl Jam "Ten" Tones

[jeffwhitfield]

TS first stage into a Marshall second stage!

My 2 Cents!

TS into a Marshall Valvestate. Probably all they could afford while making the first album.

 

[jeffwhitfield]

In reality they used some pretty bitchin gear on ten. Unlike the rest of the Seattle bands who pissed their advances away on drugs, hookers and lick-m-aid when they sold out to major labels, PJ got some gear. Not very punk rock.

Vedder isn’t exactly punk either. He took a very mindful approach when the band got big. Definitely paid attention to the fans and made sure they didn’t get screwed.

 

[jjjimi84]

Vedder is like Bono 2.0

Hard disagree.

One is an insufferable twat and the other is eddie vedder.

I have seen Pearl Jam live a number of times and the shows are always incredible.

The song writing and playing is pretty great and not coated in delays

 

[jeffwhitfield]

Vedder is like Bono 2.0

I dunno. I mean, has Vedder gotten any flack on his taxes? Just seems like Vedder is way less of a dick.

 

[chongmagic]

Never could get into PJ, always preferred Alice In Chains. I always thought Jerry Cantrell was seriously underrated.

 

[jjjimi84]

Never could get into PJ, always preferred Alice In Chains. I always thought Jerry Cantrell was seriously underrated.

Now this I agree with 100% degredation trip vol 1 and 2 are on heavy rotation in my house.

 

[jjjimi84]

Now Dan, I'm not saying your wrong but it's ok to not be right I'm not saying PJ is bad, or even Vedder as a singer/artist. I was speaking more on a personal level I don't care for him. In a lot of interviews he comes of pretentious and takes himself really serious. Sometimes he comes off really preachy about things, and him and Bono are friends and work on a lot of the same causes, like freeing the koi fish at the pond in the zoo lol. I've seen PJ twice and both times they were great. I'm sorry if I offended you, can I borrow some rope please

Oh yeah i am sure on a personal level they are spaghetti dildos, I was talking on a band level. If I have to hear another dogshit U2 song i am going to puke. In my younger days i would spin PJ binaural, roast a bone and take a pharmaceutical, thems the days

 

[Harry Klippton]

Alright fellas I've never purposely listened to Alice in chains before but lately I've been thinking I should give them a chance. Care to give me a primer? What's their deal? What do you like about them? What should I check out?

 

[chongmagic]

Alright fellas I've never purposely listened to Alice in chains before but lately I've been thinking I should give them a chance. Care to give me a primer? What's their deal? What do you like about them? What should I check out?

I would start out Listening to Dirt, that was Layne Staley in his prime. I was listening to Queensryche and Metallica in the early 90s before the grunge scene really hit. I feel like they kept a part of that structure in their music, and they actually had lead solos. Plus Layne and Jerry singing together is something magical.

 

[Coda]

Everything, dirt is their landmark album but everything they did before Layne Staley's death was fantastic. Excellent compositions, deep introspective lyrics, phenomenal vocal harmonies and top notch playing from everyone. Unplugged shows their true talent. The EPs also show a different side of them. One of my favorites.

Sap is great, and even features a kind of Seattle All-star line up on Right Turn…

 

[Harry Klippton]

Ok reporting back. I listened to like half of dirt white making dinner and this just isn't what I like the guitar solos were kinda cool but I just can't hang with the vocals at all.

Side note. I have absolutely zero frame of reference for Seattle music for lack of a better term. What were their influences?

 

[Mentaltossflycoon]

Never could get into PJ, always preferred Alice In Chains. I always thought Jerry Cantrell was seriously underrated.

The unplugged album was pretty great too. It's weird how compelling "grunge" acts could be on acoustics.

 

[chongmagic]

I remember seeing Tool live, it was so awesome!

 

[jjjimi84]

The unplugged album was pretty great too. It's weird how compelling "grunge" acts could be on acoustics.

It was because they wrote great songs.

 

[jimilee]

I like some AIC. That being said, I thought their last few albums were meh. A few good songs.

 

[NickC]

My favorite from the Seattle scene has always been Chris Cornell, I was lucky enough to "meet" him in Rome during the higher truth tour, I was wearing a mother love bone t-shirt, as he was going up on stage I walked over to get me signed the temple of dog album, the security stopped me but Chris was super nice, he saw the shirt he smiled at me put his hand on my head and then he signed the album.
I've seen Eddie live both solo and with pearl jam, I've never been lucky enough to "meet" him but he always seemed like a good guy to me

 

[Harry Klippton]

The Seattle scene was really about diy recording and subpop records in the begining. Most came from poor broken homes. Drugs, especially heroin were very popular. The scene was the like a revolt against 80s hair metal. Like alot of the early 90s music it was anti establishment until it became monetized by the mainstream and major labels. The counterculture became the culture. It was angst, pure rock n roll. Most of the frontmen from the scene are all dead, art imitating life imitating art.

I meant musical influences

 

[HamishR]

One guy who was a big influence on Mudhoney (at least) was a guy local to where I live, on the other side of the planet from Seattle. Kim Salmon is still underground here, but much admired. He made his name with bands like The Scientists in the late '70s and '80s, as well as early Beats of Bourbon and The Surrealists. Have a listen to We Had Love by The Scientists or Hard Work Drivin' Man, or Chase The Dragon from The Beasts of Bourbon.

Way back around '90 my band supported the Beasts at a large venue here and I had never actually seen them perform, just heard them on the radio. They absolutely blew me away with power and awesomeness. And because at the time most of the band were on smack (not Kim though) we helped ourselves to their rather generous drinks rider in the dressing room.

Mudhoney paid for Kim to visit them in the '90s. Kim tells the story better than I can, but he says he blew it. He was invited to record with them, so tried to write "hits" rather than just be Kim Salmon, which is what Mudhoney really wanted. So nothing came of it all. Kim Salmon is a legend who never quite made it to the top. His recordings don't do justice to the performances he was/is capable of. Kim was a master of "loud-quiet-loud" before everyone! If you like your rock swampy, fuzzy and gritty have a listen.

 

[xefned]

The self-titled 3rd album with the dog on the front is really good too. It's actually my favorite but probably because I bought it before Dirt.

 

[jeffwhitfield]

To me, the whole grunge movement was a lot like the punk movement of the 70's. However, it was less about anti-this and anti-that and more about being free musically. It was like they were getting back to the vibe that made rock music of the 60's and 70's so great. Instead of the highly polished quality of 80's rock music, grunge was more about getting back to a more raw feeling, thus the name "grunge".