Question for Paragon (etc) users

[Harry Klippton]

Also wondering if I should check out a pro-10

 

[Harry Klippton]

Im really liking the rat option....

You would

 

[Harry Klippton]

@MichaelW you got any thoughts on the paragon vs the pro-10? I know you're familiar with both

 

[DAJE]

I've been gigging with the Paragon Mini recently. I use both sides, but never both at once. One or the other; dirty boost or light drive. This is on lap steel through a clean amp.

 

[Harry Klippton]

I've been gigging with the Paragon Mini recently. I use both sides, but never both at once. One or the other; dirty boost or light drive. This is on lap steel through a clean amp.

What amp are you using @DAJE ?

 

[MichaelW]

@MichaelW you got any thoughts on the paragon vs the pro-10? I know you're familiar with both

The Paragons I haven’t touched in a while, nor the Pro-10 tbh. I did pull the Pro-10 out yesterday looking for a sound to track for a part, it wasn’t it so it went back on the shelf….

The Pro-10 i treat as two pedals, don’t particularly care for them stacked. The Paragon I tend to treat as one pedal in various configurations of running both sides at the same time, even for lower gain sounds. But keeping in mind I did a couple of high gain mods on my Paragons so I‘m probably using them wrong….

 

[Joben Magooch]

I’ve owned a handful of Bluesbreaker variants (both “real” and PedalPCB builds). Off the top of my head,
King of Tone/paragon/mini
Prince of Tone/pauper
Morning Glory/glory hole
Snouse Blackbox 2
Pro-10 (full and blue side)

I’ve settled on the Pro-10 full for the time being but of course if you don’t care for the green side the standalone blue is great. I’ve quite liked all of them but the Protein feels very well “tuned” - of course it doesn’t have near the flexibility but it’s designed in such a way that I’ve never felt I’m missing anything. It’s simple but does it’s sound very, very well. I liked the king/prince and Blackbox too, but kind of ended up having option paralysis I guess. And with the Paragon/KoT I would generally find myself gravitating towards one sound I liked a lot but then had a hard time finding second setting that was distinct enough from the first. So would end up having a dual OD with two extremely similar sounding settings which kinda defeats the purpose imo. I really really like the MG for certain rhythm sounds but had a hard time finding much use outside of that. That being said I’ve often heard the protein described as a more “hi-fi” Bluesbreaker and I’d agree with that description. It’s very sculpted/tailored a specific way which you may or may not dig. I have owned a handful of Pauper/PoT’s too and I find it to be a bit more “raw” of an interpretation of the BB sound.

So the TL;DR for me is basically get a Pro-10 Blue unless you want something a little raunchier, in which case get a Pauper….

 

[Harry Klippton]

I’ve owned a handful of Bluesbreaker variants (both “real” and PedalPCB builds). Off the top of my head,
King of Tone/paragon/mini
Prince of Tone/pauper
Morning Glory/glory hole
Snouse Blackbox 2
Pro-10 (full and blue side)

I’ve settled on the Pro-10 full for the time being but of course if you don’t care for the green side the standalone blue is great. I’ve quite liked all of them but the Protein feels very well “tuned” - of course it doesn’t have near the flexibility but it’s designed in such a way that I’ve never felt I’m missing anything. It’s simple but does it’s sound very, very well. I liked the king/prince and Blackbox too, but kind of ended up having option paralysis I guess. And with the Paragon/KoT I would generally find myself gravitating towards one sound I liked a lot but then had a hard time finding second setting that was distinct enough from the first. So would end up having a dual OD with two extremely similar sounding settings which kinda defeats the purpose imo. I really really like the MG for certain rhythm sounds but had a hard time finding much use outside of that. That being said I’ve often heard the protein described as a more “hi-fi” Bluesbreaker and I’d agree with that description. It’s very sculpted/tailored a specific way which you may or may not dig. I have owned a handful of Pauper/PoT’s too and I find it to be a bit more “raw” of an interpretation of the BB sound.

So the TL;DR for me is basically get a Pro-10 Blue unless you want something a little raunchier, in which case get a Pauper….

Thanks for this. You hit on a few things that are in line with what I'm thinking. I only use one side of the paragon, set for overdrive. I really only need that one side and I could probably be happy with a pauper or something. So I could either roll with that, or go with one bluesbreaker+ something different entirely for the space on my board. I've never played an odr-1 but I'm curious so the pro-10 seems interesting

 

[DAJE]

What amp are you using @DAJE ?

Depends on the gig. I have a few small amps but mostly I've been using the singer/guitarist's spare Roland Cube. Portability is a big thing for me, if I use a borrowed amp I can sometimes get to a gig and back on public transport.

EDIT

I'm using a Roland Cube, the singer is playing my PRS SE Mira.