Interesting take on a Klon

[jimilee]

I think the red LEDs are a neat idea. I could care less about the other germs.

 

[szukalski]

The people have spoken! We don’t need no new designs!

 

[coltonius]

Archer: Bilked Gearhead Edition (TM)

 

[manfesto]

Of all the things to make footswitchable, the clipping diodes???

By making it footswitchable instead of just a single rotary, it shows this was designed *specifically* for someone to A/B test different diodes, not for actually gigging since nobody will actually be doing that live (unless it just so happens the difference in volume from one set of diodes to another is *exactly* the amount of boost you want - at which point an *actual* boost would’ve been easier).

What a waste of design real estate, what a ridiculous idea for a product.

 

[jimilee]

Of all the things to make footswitchable, the clipping diodes???

By making it footswitchable instead of just a single rotary, it shows this was designed *specifically* for someone to A/B test different diodes, not for actually gigging since nobody will actually be doing that live (unless it just so happens the difference in volume from one set of diodes to another is *exactly* the amount of boost you want - at which point an *actual* boost would’ve been easier).

What a waste of design real estate, what a ridiculous idea for a product.

Totally agree. I have a klon board (FSB clown centurion) I am going to put Red LEDs in to see how that sounds.

 

[swyse]

I wonder if they made any compensations for the circuit to have the headroom to use red LEDs without clipping the summing op amp stage, or if that is part of the red LED sound we're hearing

 

[jimilee]

I wonder if they made any compensations for the circuit to have the headroom to use red LEDs without clipping the summing op amp stage, or if that is part of the red LED sound we're hearing

That’s a good question. I wonder if it’s 18v inside.

 

[coltonius]

I wonder if they made any compensations for the circuit to have the headroom to use red LEDs without clipping the summing op amp stage, or if that is part of the red LED sound we're hearing

Knowing Archer, proooobably not. They seem to take the a Lovepedalian approach, which is the least amount of resistance possible between versions.

EDIT: Oh shoot! I forgot I screen grabbed the gut shot from Andy’s Reverb demo. 3 ICs, so yes. 18v inside.

 

[Harry Klippton]

Knowing Archer, proooobably not. They seem to take the a Lovepedalian approach, which is the least amount of resistance possible between versions.

EDIT: Oh shoot! I forgot I screen grabbed the gut shot from Andy’s Reverb demo. 3 ICs, so yes. 18v inside.

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Look at all that flux

 

[ThePanda]

Look at all that flux

But the red LEDs seem to have no messy flux, so you know these are the real deal.

 

[owlexifry]

how much gear does one need to smoke before pushing retail prices like that?
holy guacamole.

 

[JamieJ]

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how much gear does one need to smoke before pushing retail prices like that?
holy guacamole.

That’s nuts!

 

[music6000]

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how much gear does one need to smoke before pushing retail prices like that?
holy guacamole.

Limited Edition Edition!

 

[owlexifry]

Limited Edition Edition!

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it’s almost as if pedals like this exist to be flipped, rather than to be played.

 

[jesuscrisp]

3 ICs, so yes. 18v inside.

My nerd sense for correction is tingling here... The Klon uses +18/-9V = 27V but only on the summing op amp and tone stages. The input/bypass buffer and dirt stage are at 9V. Still, unless there's some fancy compensation, the pure volume difference between hard clipping red LEDs and germanium will throw off the clean blend balance, cause thr following stage(s) to potentially clip and let more op amp clipping through.

Personally I think the clipping rotary for only germanium options and then randomly LEDs is pretty damn stupid. Could have at least tossed in some asymmetrical, silicon, mosfet, maybe soft clipping or whatever instead IF they already NEED to release a Klone like that.

 

[DAJE]

it’s almost as if pedals like this exist to be flipped, rather than to be played.

 

[Robert]

What's up with the speaker sim output?

 

[szukalski]

What's up with the speaker sim output?

It justifies a purchase.. $1 in parts and drilling yields a bunch of sales.

Aka jumping the shark.

 

[cdwillis]

I was under the impression the clipping section of the klon ran at higher voltages too so the op amp itself wasn't clipping, or at least not clipping as much before it hit the magic diodes.

 

[sticky1138]

It says the speaker sim is for running directly into a DAW. Why wouldn't you just use a Klon plugin?