New JHS Pedals DIY Kit – Monday May 5th
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Fama
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Yeah, that's true, but that could just be a difference in output volume. Which is a difference, of course, but not that consequential IMO. But I would definitely be interested in hearing how they sound with the input/left control dimed, if that is indeed mostly just an input pot in both.
andare
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Friendly reminder, guys, do not google "smaller BBC" at work
giovanni
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Not surprised. If he’s gonna discontinue these and maybe release a different version with the correct circuit this first batch becomes ultra rare and shit.The prices on reverb went *up* after this video dropped
Robert
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Sort of an interesting way to do things...
I'm right on top of that, Rose.
- Release product, announce that it is not limited so scalpers are not interested
- Two weeks later discontinue said product so value skyrockets for those every day buyers (sorry scalpers, you shouldn't have believed that BS)
I'm right on top of that, Rose.
Robert
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giovanni
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You should name it “Josh’s big mistake”.
giovanni
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Good for folks who bought it! But I doubt this was a ruse…Sort of an interesting way to do things...
I noticed they're now selling (not to be confused with listing) for more than double what they were yesterday. None had reached the $200 mark yesterday, now I see a few recently sold are approaching $400. I really have no attachment to this kit.....
- Release product, announce that it is not limited so scalpers are not interested
- Two weeks later discontinue said product so value skyrockets for those every day buyers (sorry scalpers, you shouldn't have believed that BS)
I don’t know, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was planned.
But even if it wasn’t, that was definitely a choice to do a click-baity “oh no!
I used one boost instead of another” video and to stop selling the current model. Not that I’m mad at it, it’s benefits me and my notabuilt kit.
But even if it wasn’t, that was definitely a choice to do a click-baity “oh no!
I used one boost instead of another” video and to stop selling the current model. Not that I’m mad at it, it’s benefits me and my notabuilt kit.
Robert
Reverse Engineer
I don’t know, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was planned.
But even if it wasn’t, that was definitely a choice to do a click-baity “oh no!
At the end of the day JHS is a business and needs to make a profit. I can't blame them for making entertaining videos.
I do like the whole "Oh no, it turns out it's not based on this rare Dumble circuit, but instead is in fact based on this even rarer Dumble circuit. Ahw shucks!"
It could happen, it's easy for things to get mixed up. I'm not sure if I'd fumble tracing John Mayers super rare Dumble pedals, but I've fucked up more important things so let's not rule it out.
This is what happens when you don't have the box.
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benny_profane
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Ref 13:55 in the video.
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The comparison is so funny to me. This guy will look at a billion versions of the same pedal--circuit revisions or just different units--and say there is an appreciable difference. But, two different topologies with the completely different active parts sound the same because they're getting at the same thing and have a similar eq?
Robert
Reverse Engineer
Yeah but those weren't JHS pedals.
Are there actually folks out there who are now disappointed with their purchase? I get it, you thought you were getting a $50K tube amp for $129 in a pedal... Totally misled.
benny_profane
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It's PR. I think they are thinking hardly anyone will take them up on the return offer, but they get to put on the mea culpa performance with stakes. If nothing else, they are definitely good at manipulating the internet gear nerds. They are now able to be pro-consumer protection while creating a need for another pedal...which sounds the exact same as the first pedal?Yeah but those weren't JHS pedals.
Are there actually folks out there who are now disappointed with their purchase? I get it, you thought you were getting a $50K tube amp for $129 in a pedal... Totally misled.
Fama
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...but why? They're still going to sell the rest of the identical V1 kits, they said it already? Something like 7.5k sold and another 7.5k to be sold, right? It's not rare, or discontinued yet.I noticed they're now selling (not to be confused with listing) for more than double what they were yesterday. None had reached the $200 mark yesterday, now I see a few recently sold are approaching $400. I really have no attachment to this kit.....
PunchySunshine
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I was a scalper / fundraiser for sure. I wasn't expecting it to sell for at least another year but I'm not complaining @ $399 PLUS shipping
TheToneGeek
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It really is funny to see this whole thing unfold. It really was a genuine mix up and you're right that he didn't have a second pedal to compare to because he didn't rebuild the "A BOX LATER" 1:1 or even Mayer's BOX IT LATER to compare to. A few mishaps however, for me, it's incredible that this situation squeezed out that a Dumble BBC-1 was a thing and that the Dumble community wasn't really aware of it. Before the video dropped, there was only one place it was lightly mentioned and the schematic was wrong over at AmpGarage. https://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6521
So now we are on track for having the corrected schematic (Thanks, @Robert !!)
Robert
Reverse Engineer
Absolutely.
This is all tongue in cheek for me. I wasn't expecting a genuine Dumble product to begin with, so the fact that there actually was something interesting in there is pretty cool.
I do think these kits would be a little more interesting if they included a schematic and at least a minimal circuit explanation.
I'll try to measure those remaining cap values today.
This is all tongue in cheek for me. I wasn't expecting a genuine Dumble product to begin with, so the fact that there actually was something interesting in there is pretty cool.
I do think these kits would be a little more interesting if they included a schematic and at least a minimal circuit explanation.
I'll try to measure those remaining cap values today.
falco_femoralis
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At the risk of wrinkling my tin foil hat, I don't know if I believe that it was a genuine mix up. He spent a lot of time explaining a plausible scenario that led to this, but you have to ask: if the two circuits were so similar, what was the point of coming out with this in the first place? There was a big backlash of people complaining about the lack of a second footswitch and I can't help but think this was Josh's way of making a V2 of the pedal to appease these people as well as creating demand for their entire inventory of V1 kits that would otherwise be unsold in favor of the new one.
He explained their methodology of housing breadboards in their boxes with labels etc, but how does the viewer know that he didn't make that up for the video? Or any of the things he talked about without any way of verifying?
He explained their methodology of housing breadboards in their boxes with labels etc, but how does the viewer know that he didn't make that up for the video? Or any of the things he talked about without any way of verifying?
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