MXR Talk box

[RetiredUnit1]

But is it worth $200 for a one trick pony?

MXR® TALK BOX

From picks to pedals and every accessory in between, Dunlop Manufacturing has been creating world-class gear for musicians for over 50 years. We consistently create the best selling picks and analog electronics, and carry a large line of accessories that set industry standards in their...

www.jimdunlop.com

 

[Bricksnbeatles]

It’s more than a one trick pony, but the other tricks are secret, so I’ll leave them to be figured out— more fun that way

But yeah, I have that talkbox (got it pretty much the day it was released) and it’s a whole lot of fun. Highly recommended.

 

[andare]

How else are you gonna play Rotten Apple?

 

[jcpst]

Sounds like fun to me- access to a sophisticated physical filter that’s connected directly to your brain.

Pink Floyd Pigs is probably the first thing I’d try.

 

[pricklyrobot]

The king of talkbox tunes!

 

[andare]

Admit it, this is what you really wanna play...

 

[pricklyrobot]

Admit it, this is what you really wanna play...

Nope, it’s this!

 

[andare]

Nope, it’s this!

I...Believe that's autotune

 

[andare]

The king of talkbox tunes!

Are the talkbox and the vocoder the same thing?

 

[jcpst]

Are the talkbox and the vocoder the same thing?

So with a vocoder your sending a signal through a bunch of band-pass filters. With the talkbox, the tube has a speaker at the bottom and the sound goes into your mouth. Then you capture the sound coming out of your mouth with a microphone. Your guitar signal goes through your mouth!

 

[Aentons]

So with a vocoder your sending a signal through a bunch of band-pass filters. With the talkbox, the tube has a speaker at the bottom and the sound goes into your mouth. The you capture the sound coming out of your mouth with a microphone. Your guitar signal goes through your mouth!

I always thought for the talkbox you sang into the tube and the speaker at the end of the tube picked up your voice like a microphone and used it to modulate your guitar signal. Mind blown.

 

[pricklyrobot]

Yeah the Cher song is Autotune. But the producers claimed at the time that it was a vocoder, because they were trying to keep their (at that time novel) non-standard ‘effect-y’ Autotune to themselves. Obviously that cat didn’t stay in the bag

To expand a little on vocoders, you have a “formant”: in the classic scenario, your voice into a mic, and a “carrier”: typically a synthesizer (some vocoders do have a built in oscillator), but could be any electronic instrument you care to plug in. The formant, via an envelope follower type circuit in the vocoder, opens the aforementioned bank of bandpass filters and the synth passes through them.

So the output of a vocoder is all synth/instrument. Your voice (aka dry signal) is just used to generate a control voltage to control the filters, and it’s not present at all in the audio output.

* some vocoders do have a knob to let you mix in some dry mic signal for ‘legibility’ purposes.

 

[andare]

Yeah the Cher song is Autotune. But the producers claimed at the time that it was a vocoder, because they were trying to keep their (at that time novel) non-standard ‘effect-y’ Autotune to themselves. Obviously that cat didn’t stay in the bag

To expand a little on vocoders, you have a “formant”: in the classic scenario, your voice into a mic, and a “carrier”: typically a synthesizer (some vocoders do have a built in oscillator), but could be any electronic instrument you care to plug in. The formant, via an envelope follower type circuit in the vocoder, opens the aforementioned bank of bandpass filters and the synth passes through them.

So the output of a vocoder is all synth/instrument. Your voice (aka dry signal) is just used to generate a control voltage to control the filters, and it’s not present at all in the audio output.

* some vocoders do have a knob to let you mix in some dry mic signal for ‘legibility’ purposes.

I guess Kraftwerk were pioneers of the vocoder

 

[jimilee]

This is the only song you’ll need to know.

 

[jcpst]

According to wikipedia, they say that the musical application of a vocoder is actually a voder, using only the decoding half. But voder sounds weird.

 

[jimilee]

According to wikipedia, they say that the musical application of a vocoder is actually a voder, using only the decoding half. But voder sounds weird.

Bitch, she saw me.

 

[pricklyrobot]

I guess Kraftwerk were pioneers of the vocoder

They’re certainly the first ones I can think of that used it in widely-heard, popular music.

Also, Radioactivity is one of my favorite albums of theirs

 

[jcpst]

Mind blown.

Same, first time I heard that explanation.

 

[genXslacker]

This is the only song you’ll need to know.

You are a man of taste and refinement.