Your experience as well as numbers accurately reflect mine. Only QC issue I found was on a 2020 LP STD 60s- they routed the truss rod opening a hair too far and as such only 1 truss rod cover screw is secured. But it’s a super light guitar- both plays and sounds amazing, so I wasn’t going to fight the chance of returning and getting a boat anchor as a replacement.
Gibson Quality Control 2024 - Unbelievable!?
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Fingolfen
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I've ordered two new Gibsons sight unseen - first was my Standard from Sweetwater during the pandemic. Good guitar... I'll likely change out the burstbuckers for something to mirror the Alex Lifeson custom shop though here soon. The second was a MOD collection ES-335... amazing guitar - no issues. I picked up an SG used based off of tons of photos - got a killer deal because there was a ding that I got my local luthier to take care of. The other is my Les Paul Custom that I picked out myself at the Gibson garage... that's a forever guitar.
As others have said... we live in a world where everyone wants to be the next big "content creator" and make a name for themselves. Click bait fuels algorithms...
As others have said... we live in a world where everyone wants to be the next big "content creator" and make a name for themselves. Click bait fuels algorithms...
Side note: is it a 50s or 60s style standard?
Nice! I have the unburst.
That said if you ever swap out the pickups let me know, if I can swing it I could possibly interested in your old ones. The burst bucker 61 are my favorite Gibson pickups. Have them in 3 guitars now lol
Joben Magooch
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I have no particular love (or hate) for Gibson but if I had to guess, I’d wager that for every one owner who’s posting a video where they’re outraged about the quality of their instrument there’s probably ten thousand other owners who are happily too busy making music to bother to make a video about it.
Aentons
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You make it sound like they all have issues and people just ignore it.
I'm sure thats not the case. I would imagine it's something like less than 1% with issues, which is about 100 guitars in 10,000. Is that acceptable or unbelievable? I think it depends on who you askI'm curious to know why 12 - 14 Gibsons in 8 years, are they all different models?
You have had your share of click bait right here???
ICTRock
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I didn't dismantle any but I test drove all of them I could get my hands on recently ... I didn't see external QC issues on a single one but I also didn't go home with any. the current LP standards either have a too thin or too thick neck profile for me ... and I felt that for 3K I didn't need to learn to live with it in order to enjoy a headstock logo
Look at how many responses you have made to the OP that seems Trivial to you!
chris.knudson
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All I can add to this is that I have two Gibsons in my collection -- my beloved 1982 Gibson Victory Bass and my 2016 SG. I have Yamahas, Fenders, Kramers, and a few off brand guitars in my collection, but without a doubt the best instruments I own are my two Gibsons. I love my Fender Jazz (it's the guitar I gig with). I love my Kramer, it's one of the coolest guitars I own. But, at the end of the day , in terms of quality and playability -- none of them come close to the Gibsons.
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Whoops, another one slipped through that the owner just took it on the chin in case he got another dud, a Member right here!
I hope the Headstock doesn't give him issues now more wood is missing!
https://forum.pedalpcb.com/threads/gibson-quality-control-2024-unbelievable.21617/page-2#post-273703
First, I believe you are misquoting me. The imperfection I found was cosmetic. I’ve seen pics of guitars by other mfrs with the same cosmetic flaw. And why I didnot return it is I like the one I have. I love how the neck feels, and it’s one of the lightest LPs I’ve played, and it sounds great, and has a nice top. In fact, the day I bought it, I was between this one and a custom shop that cost nearly 2x the price (and had the budget for it at the time) And without really knowing which was which, I chose this over the cs! I wasn’t worried about getting another/worse flaw, rather am saying I was more than willing to overlook a minor issue that nobody except me will ever see, does not affect the stability, tone or playability of the guitar because honestly, this one was a once in a lifetime find. It was just perfect for me. My guitar is anything but a dud…if it was, I wouldn’t have it, and I wouldn’t have bought 10 more Gibson over the next 5 years either (most of which I still have). I have had guitars by other mfrs that also had defects (Fender- had 5 over the past 5 years that i either returned or dumped quick;y due to factory flaws that affected playability), a Rickenbacker (I bought it knowing there was a small factory finish blemish (fisheye)- dealer comped me for it), every budget brand (even the more highly acclaimed brands) needed fretwork and had minor imperfecations. Even a PRS core I bought new and kept for less than a year had a couple things that shouldn’t have made it past QC….
all companies make mistakes, it’s on us as to what we accept (if the guitar sounds, plays and feels right, ill overlook cosmetic), and how the company takes care of us when mistakes are found is what matters
It was just an observation that in our small comunity here, we have another issue wiith a recent Gibson.
If you are happy with the the Guitar, it's cosmetic & hidden, that's all that Matters.
Joben Magooch
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I didn’t mean to imply as such.You make it sound like they all have issues and people just ignore it.
Just to say that most people won’t find enough to complain about and got the instrument they expected to get and that’s that. It’s kind of the “online reviews bell curve” type thing - if you sold 100 guitars, 10 people would post a review about how it’s perfect and the best instrument they’ve ever played, 10 would post a review about how it’s trash and the worst thing they’ve ever played, and 80 might not think it’s perfect but don’t think it’s the worst thing ever either and don’t care to take the time to make a review for it. And as others have suggested… outrage generates FAR more clicks than a video that says “I bought a new guitar, it’s pretty good. Not the best thing ever, not the worst thing ever, overall I’m content with it” lol.
At the end of the day Gibson is still selling plenty of instruments and I suspect if their QC was as poor as claimed - with bad eggs left and right - they would not move nearly as much product as they do.
Robert
Reverse Engineer
I was just about to post... I feel like the internet (and specifically gear forums) contribute to the amount of attention minor QC issues get these days.
In the old days you just went down to the music store or pawn shop, found a guitar that spoke to you, then took it home and played the damned thing regardless of any minor issues.
These days there are so many posts that start like "Should I be upset about this defect?" ... As if the owner would possibly have just lived with it and moved on had there not been 100 forum cowboys to tell them how bad it is. If you don't even know if you should be disappointed, is it really that bad?
benny_profane
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This has to be one of the most baffling things about not just gear forums, but the internet in general. Crowdsourcing personal opinions is wild.
mkstewartesq
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No kidding. I joined a subReddit for a TV manufacturer brand that I was considering purchasing just to get some real world impressions before buying. The sheer number of posts of people showing their TV screen and saying “is this a good panel?” quickly drove me away because it eclipsed any useful content that might have been in that forum.
Does it look good to you? Yes, then it’s a good panel. Does it look bad to you? Then it’s not a good panel for you and you should return it. It’s really not that hard.
