Doesn't Mouser ship from the US?
Jlcpcb and tariffs
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benny_profane
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They’ve been indicating tariff prices since the semiconductor tariffs started in January. They are passing it through to the customer but as a specific line item rather than in the price.
pricklyrobot
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My Mouser orders ship from TX. They may have multiple distribution centers, I’m not sure.
But a good chunk of their inventory probably comes from tariffed countries, so they’re giving it too you as a line item rather than just doing across-the-board price increases.
I’ve seen other businesses doing the same thing lately.
I’m putting together a pretty big Mouser order at the moment, I’ll report back here with my tariff totals when I finish.
PedalBuilder
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The Federal Circuit just affirmed the Court of International Trade's ruling that the tariffs imposed by five executive orders were illegal because they were not authorized by statute. The ruling is on hold through October 14 to allow the government the opportunity to file a petition for a writ of certiorari in the Supreme Court. The opinion is here, for those interested.
jdduffield
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I noticed a huge increase in shipping costs for Tayda. And only one option, DHL. I hope that’s temporary. Usually the more you buy, the lower the shipping costs. Now it just keeps going up. (Talking about the estimate shown in the cart.)
jessenator
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how long before his oberstgerichtshof overrules this one?
PedalBuilder
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Not sure what an oberstgerichensgrubentshoffenzolenz is, but I'm very skeptical that I can count to five in support of the proposition that IEEPA authorizes the president to unilaterally impose tariffs of unlimited duration on nearly all goods from nearly every country in the world.
jessenator
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Bad joke. I'm not well versed in how the appeals process works and just assumed the supreme pizza court would just do the bidding of the guy giving the edicts.
I'm prepared, just not happy.
I'm prepared, just not happy.
Audandash
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877 cash now
benny_profane
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“Oh you did something so uniquely illegal that there’s no precedent? Have another six weeks of doing it just for funsies.”
I'm brand new here. Wanting to make an order from Tayda and a PCB from JLC. Curious if DHL will now demand a big tariff payment for my package. Hate this timeframe. Trying to put together a similar order from Mouser or Digikey...but finding similar products from the insane selection there is driving me crazy! Back to PCB design I guess. lol
Looking at it in a balanced way - some of the changes are positive and needed, possibly not great for pedal builders but I think that removal of de minimis on duty is a positive thing - it will stop Chinese fast fashion brands being able to undercut the system of import duties and safety requirements - that overall will be a positive thing for American economy and worker and will give a semblance of fairness to shops trying to operate in the US.
On the other hand, vindictive personal vendettas and personal gifts to the president is a crazy way for any country to manage trade and foreign policy and clearly has to be illegal if that constitution is still something y’all believe in?
As an outsider looking in the speed of the slide into authoritarianism in the US is crazy.
On the other hand, vindictive personal vendettas and personal gifts to the president is a crazy way for any country to manage trade and foreign policy and clearly has to be illegal if that constitution is still something y’all believe in?
As an outsider looking in the speed of the slide into authoritarianism in the US is crazy.
that's less than 20% including shipping.
The rest of the world would pay (subtotal + shipping) x VAT - which in the UK is 20% .
Plus import charge if over 136 IIRC now. It’s all caused mass chaos as all rapid import/export changes do.
pricklyrobot
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Except that businesses specifically competing with ‘Chinese fast fashion’ were more likely to be large retail chains and not independent mom-n-pops.
And of course there’s all the small specialty shops that rely on imports of stuff that will never make sense to manufacture in the US. Just read an article about a shop that imports rugby goggles to sell here and how they’re struggling with tariffs. When are the rugby goggle factories likely to spring up in the US?
And for those saying this puts us more in line with what Europeans have been paying. Maybe, but you guys get to live in Europe!
These new fees aren’t being collected to help small businesses or to fund social services (not here, we hardly have any left), they’re explicitly supposed to offset the costs of tax breaks for the rich.
Anyway, somewhat more on point, placed a Mouser order yesterday the breakdown was:
Merchandise - $189.60
TX state sales tax - $18.65
Shipping - $8.89
Tariff - $27.55
So, looks like somewhere around 15% added to your order total. I didn’t really scrutinize my order to see if it seemed like the same rate across different types of components. But they do give it to you per item, so some bored individual could make a pie chart or something
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Maybe, over here cheap imports bypassing any VAT or import duty are effecting the larger retail chains and the independentExcept that businesses specifically competing with ‘Chinese fast fashion’ were more likely to be large retail chains and not independent mom-n-pops.
And of course there’s all the small specialty shops that rely on imports of stuff that will never make sense to manufacture in the US. Just read an article about a shop that imports rugby goggles to sell here and how they’re struggling with tariffs. When are the rugby goggle factories likely to spring up in the US?
And for those saying this puts us more in line with what Europeans have been paying. Maybe, but you guys get to live in Europe!
These new fees aren’t being collected to help small businesses or to fund social services (not here, we hardly have any left), they’re explicitly supposed to offset the costs of tax breaks for the rich.
Anyway, somewhat more on point, placed a Mouser order yesterday the breakdown was:
Merchandise - $189.60
TX state sales tax - $18.65
Shipping - $8.89
Tariff - $27.55
So, looks like somewhere around 15% added to your order total. I didn’t really scrutinize my order to see if it seemed like the same rate across different types of components. But they do give it to you per item, so some bored individual could make a pie chart or something
For something like Rugby googles, I imagine it will work like VAT and the small business will just pass the cost onto the consumer - there's nothing inherently wrong with that, and it's not much different to the state's sales tax being added onto the cost - the issue is if the American consumer and economy is ready for the prices on everything to go up 10-50%?
As to what your government spends any monies collected on, you live in a democracy, with a constitution and checks and balances, so theoretically the American people get to decide that?
pricklyrobot
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What’s wrong with it in this case is that the supposed aim of the tariff is to encourage increased manufacturing in the US. But if you slap non-strategic tariffs on everything, you wind up including specialty items (like rugby goggles for one example) that will never plausibly be manufactured in the US due to very limited demand.
So, increased prices with no plausible benefit for the US citizen/consumer.
That’s without even delving into the (fairly large) number of people who claim to support domestic manufacturing vs. the (very much smaller) number of people who say they’d actually like a factory job. Or the fact that the people touting these great manufacturing jobs on the horizon also tend to be enthusiastic union-busters…
* Hands up everybody who wants to head to North Carolina and man the looms in the newly re-shored ‘right to work’ textile mill
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