"New Diode" / "Tweaked" KTR?

[Fingolfen]

Has anyone traced one of the newer KTR's with the "new" diodes and "adjustments"? I'm assuming the base circuit is the same, just some values that may change because of a different Vf on the diodes.

 

[Robert]

There is, I saw em yesterday. I believe it's the KTR version.

 

[Harry Klippton]

I don't actually know what a klon sounds like

 

[benny_profane]

A crispy high-mids boost.

It’s fine.

 

[Big Monk]

i need to build another Klone to keep this time.

 

[Robert]

The magic diodes aren't important, all you need is the right enclosure.

It'll be fine.

 

[Harry Klippton]

Should I try one?

 

[benny_profane]

I don’t see how you could be a certified pedal hater without. That’s like pedal hating 101.

 

[Big Monk]

I've used bat41 diodes and heard no discernable difference in tone. I was under the impression that diodes affect voltage and not tone. I can't imagine one Russian ge diode sounds better than another as a hard clipper in a klone.

I always think of it in terms of gain and affecting the gain structure/how much gain.

Which is all the more hilarious when people who use Klon type pedals as clean/mid boosts talk about the diodes.

 

[benny_profane]

Which is all the more hilarious when people who use Klon type pedals talk about the diodes

That’s always the strange thing: who cares about the clipping if you’re not using it?

That said, there’ll be differences between Schottky and Ge diodes due to differences in the I-V curves. Whether that matters is a different issue entirely.

 

[spi]

Should I try one?

You probably don't need one, but worth building if you like to cover the classics in your collection.
That was my rationale for building it, and I liked it better than I thought I would based on demos--its best as a boost and stacks well.

Don't get hung up on the diodes though.

 

[Big Monk]

These are the same people who pay extra and obsess over having the legit hard clippers in a king of tone and never use distortion mode

Never use distortion mode! Not a fan.

 

[manfesto]

You would either need a setup where you’re controlling the current through device under test (DUT) and keep notes, or a test instrument like a Peak Atlas DCA75 that has curve tracing capabilities. With the DCA75, you have to hook it up to a computer to generate the graphs.

something I'm 100% sure Finnegan did with every single of his "magic" 1N34s before putting them into every Klon and KTR on the market to confirm they met his exacting standards, naturally

 

[Robert]

For someone who spent so much time worrying about diodes that 12V zener across the DC jack is a terrible idea.

 

[spi]

Will hates tube screamers

Is hate-building pedals a thing?

 

[Harry Klippton]

I sure do. I've been on a bit of a bum streak with builds lately but I'm excited about some of the stuff I'm working on now

 

[spi]

Oh, in that case, Klon has a high component count for a simple overdrive.

 

[Coda]

Is hate-building pedals a thing?

That’s the only reason I built my Klone…

 

[Fingolfen]

Semi-conductors like transistors and diodes are still discrete. Linearity or active/passive has nothing to do with that.

You would either need a setup where you’re controlling the current through device under test (DUT) and keep notes, or a test instrument like a Peak Atlas DCA75 that has curve tracing capabilities. With the DCA75, you have to hook it up to a computer to generate the graphs.

Yeah, but on semiconductors you've got a pre-set test program that is done for you - no one is sitting there with an o-scope anymore... Something about chips having something like 20 billion transistors now...

I've got a DCA55, but not a DCA75 - I may need to invest...

 

[benny_profane]

I’m not familiar with DCA55, but it may very well have the capability—check the documentation.

I’m not sure what you mean. A chip is an integrated device and contains, as you said, massive numbers or transistors and diodes (i.e., discrete devices). When those discrete devices are combined (or integrated) into a single package, you get an integrated circuit.

Oscilloscopes, signal generators, and logic analyzers are absolutely used daily with computer chip and microcontroller development, design, verification, and implementation. The test programs you’re referring to all use set parameters with those instruments to test and measure. It’s a different methodology, but the tools are the same.

 

[Robert]

I don't think the DCA55 has USB functionality.