New JHS Pedal Announcement

Harry Klippton said:
I know a guy 😉
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I think the problems are just in the audio path, so I might take a crack myself (if it seemed like something electro-mechanical I probably wouldn’t go down the rabbit hole).
Plus I’ve a got a fully working Fostex X-12 that I got for not-crazy money a few years ago, so I haven’t been too motivated yet.

Though, if I could fix it up, apparently there’d be mk.g-ipsters queuing up to buy it! 😳
And it’s only got, max, half as much ‘fi’ as a 424…
 
Never heard of the MCgee…. the name sounds like McDonald fast food butter substitute and his music I can only describe as what I imagine it would be like after you have been lobotomized with a swizzle stick in a dive bar circa 1985 surrounded by people who look like extras on an episode of Miami vice.

It sounds like a Police album on tape that someone left in a hot car
 
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Aleph Null said:
Does it at least use a transformer for the XLR out, or is it a cheap dual opamp implementation? I could almost understand the price if there was some serious copper in there.
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Honestly I would be surprised if there was a transformer on the XLR out at this price and also in this form factor. We've seen JHS use transformers before in the Colour Box and that thing was big and expensive. The Colour Box used Lundahl iron, and there's no way you're getting Lundahl into something you're selling for $249. Also the output transformer he used there would be a tight squeeze in a 125B as well. I assume it's an "active" D.I. with opamps.

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I'd be willing to bet it's the same circuit that's in the Punchline. I'll crack it open again today and snap a pic but I'm almost positive there was no transformer in there.

I firmly believe, like tubes and germanium, if there was a transformer in there we'd know it.
 
pricklyrobot said:
I think the problems are just in the audio path, so I might take a crack myself (if it seemed like something electro-mechanical I probably wouldn’t go down the rabbit hole).
Plus I’ve a got a fully working Fostex X-12 that I got for not-crazy money a few years ago, so I haven’t been too motivated yet.

Though, if I could fix it up, apparently there’d be mk.g-ipsters queuing up to buy it! 😳
And it’s only got, max, half as much ‘fi’ as a 424…
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If you've got no output at all, replace C128, 228, 328, and
428. 220uf, 25v. That means you plugged the wrong polarity power supply in. This requires fully disassembling the machine and removing the transport and the bottom PCB.
 
Robert said:
I talked with Josh recently and I really got the impression that they're (JHS collectively) putting in a bit more effort than that these days.
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I don’t really get the JHS hate you see online, the guy starts with mods and clones (like most of us) then scales it up and his real skill is branding and creating a fairly desirable product.
Then does YouTube (branding again) and tries lots of stuff in quite a slick convincing way that I guess sells and does what he wants it to. I imagine he has a couple of electrical engineers on payroll - but he’s never going to be like some visionary pedal builder who creates utterly new things - he’s a geek like most of this forum who gets to do geeky pedal stuff and do whatever and not offshore the manufacturer . Not much to hate there other than a certain level of bland reliability of product and suspicion he gets to have more fun in his job than I do in mine…

(Disclaimer- I own a colourbox v2, I looked inside and no I can’t trace that!)
 
LukeFRC said:
I don’t really get the JHS hate you see online, the guy starts with mods and clones (like most of us) then scales it up and his real skill is branding and creating a fairly desirable product.
Then does YouTube (branding again) and tries lots of stuff in quite a slick convincing way that I guess sells and does what he wants it to. I imagine he has a couple of electrical engineers on payroll - but he’s never going to be like some visionary pedal builder who creates utterly new things - he’s a geek like most of this forum who gets to do geeky pedal stuff and do whatever and not offshore the manufacturer . Not much to hate there other than a certain level of bland reliability of product and suspicion he gets to have more fun in his job than I do in mine…

(Disclaimer- I own a colourbox v2, I looked inside and no I can’t trace that!)
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No hate for Josh from me. That said, JHS pedals aren't a good value proposition for most DIY'ers. No, he's not making anything visionary, but the pedal-buying public at large doesn't want anything visionary; they want the same shit that's been around since the sixties.

I hope it at least uses a THAT 1606 or 1646 instead of a TL072 for the DI out.
 
lowpitch said:
Someone explain the appeal of this kind of tone to me please because I don't get it. I'm watching the Ronquillo demo and I just keep thinking "Cool, but it'd sound so much better if he ditched the pedal and just played through a pushed clean amp".
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I think it's the sort of thing that sits well in a mix, but sounds terrible on it's own. Think wiry fuzz tones on Beatles records for solos.

Personally, I think I'd rather just build a Demo Tape Fuzz and run it into a used Radial JDI. It would cost about as much.
 
lowpitch said:
Someone explain the appeal of this kind of tone to me please because I don't get it. I'm watching the Ronquillo demo and I just keep thinking "Cool, but it'd sound so much better if he ditched the pedal and just played through a pushed clean amp".
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You could get exactly the same tone by overloading your laptop mic input. But Tone Chasers be chasin' I guess.

And yeah, I would expect it's just a regular op-amp balanced XLR output, cause that really fits the vibe of the circuit anyway.
 
lowpitch said:
Someone explain the appeal of this kind of tone to me please because I don't get it. I'm watching the Ronquillo demo and I just keep thinking "Cool, but it'd sound so much better if he ditched the pedal and just played through a pushed clean amp".
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I thought technology had improved so we don’t have to sound like this, but here we are. I don’t get it either.
 
Lo-fi is awesome. It's ok if you don't get it. There's something about unintended tones, technology that breaks down, appreciating the limitations of a medium, happy accidents, quirky stuff.

I mean tubes were not meant to distort yet here we are building circuits that intentionally overload transistors.
It's literally the same thing.
 
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